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Windows 8.1 Update 1 leaked

  1. #131


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    The end result will update your OS to 8.1.1 without having reinstall anything..

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  2. #132


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Tews View Post
    The end result will update your OS to 8.1.1 without having reinstall anything..
    Okay, I got ya!
    I should clarify; I've installed 8.1.1 on another partition and without activation, some features are disabled.
    I thought if you would activate it, MS would detect an unauthorized version running and revoke your key, or something stupid like that!
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  3. #133


    Posts : 308
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Wow!, logic who would have guessed. . .
    Thanks Lee.

    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    As far as metro Apps go, there is no need to use them unless one finds a use for them.
    I knew it, I knew there was a reason I rarely went there, or had to leave my desktop
    I have no sense of humor so let me just make this point. Are you kidding? You do realize the metro UI is not an App? You do realize, the desktop UI is an App? You understand the "desktop" can be closed. You get that booting to the desktop is an autoload of an App? Don't get me wrong critics, Win32 cannot be closed, but the desktop is not Win32. It is a shell that can be closed. Can you close the metro UI? No. The desktop is restricted space. There are limits left, right, top and bottom. There is no future for single screen computing. Multi screens are the future of code and programming. The sooner one understands code evolution, the sooner system errors and infections will be minimized or eliminated. For those that relish the desktop, it is probably the worst and most insecure network interface in existence.

    Attachment 37076

    Unless a system is disconnected from the net, it is at risk.
    The classic shell will not protect you. Explorer.exe will be phased out at some point.

    The Updates coming are not just cosmetic.
    Obviously, Caperjack meant Metro apps, AS OPPOSED TO the Desktop and its apps.

    The Desktop has been around for many years and still works just the way it always did. Just because there is now a Start Screen, what sense does it make to say that the Desktop has now become "only" an App?

    The Desktop tile, like all tiles and icons, is just a link. You can have a link from any place to any other place. True, the Desktop doesn't have a "Start Screen" icon, but they could put one there if they wanted to. They don't want to, because Metro is what they're "pushing." They WANT users to think of Metro as "the OS" and of the Desktop as "only an app."

    Yes, you can pull the little "hand cursor" down across the Desktop. But when you do that (with the Desktop or with any other screen) nothing is really being "closed" at all. That's just an illusion. All it really does is switch to the Start Screen, the same as pressing the Win key.

    And it's easy to prove that. Open a few windows on your Desktop. Then pull the hand cursor down and you see the Start Screen. Now click the Desktop tile, and all the windows you had open are back again and still open. So how can it be true that the Desktop was closed?
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  4. #134


    USA, Idaho
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    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Drop View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Wow!, logic who would have guessed. . .
    Thanks Lee.

    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    I knew it, I knew there was a reason I rarely went there, or had to leave my desktop
    I have no sense of humor so let me just make this point. Are you kidding? You do realize the metro UI is not an App? You do realize, the desktop UI is an App? You understand the "desktop" can be closed. You get that booting to the desktop is an autoload of an App? Don't get me wrong critics, Win32 cannot be closed, but the desktop is not Win32. It is a shell that can be closed. Can you close the metro UI? No. The desktop is restricted space. There are limits left, right, top and bottom. There is no future for single screen computing. Multi screens are the future of code and programming. The sooner one understands code evolution, the sooner system errors and infections will be minimized or eliminated. For those that relish the desktop, it is probably the worst and most insecure network interface in existence.

    Attachment 37076

    Unless a system is disconnected from the net, it is at risk.
    The classic shell will not protect you. Explorer.exe will be phased out at some point.

    The Updates coming are not just cosmetic.
    Obviously, Caperjack meant Metro apps, AS OPPOSED TO the Desktop and its apps.

    The Desktop has been around for many years and still works just the way it always did. Just because there is now a Start Screen, what sense does it make to say that the Desktop has now become "only" an App?

    The Desktop tile, like all tiles and icons, is just a link. You can have a link from any place to any other place. True, the Desktop doesn't have a "Start Screen" icon, but they could put one there if they wanted to. They don't want to, because Metro is what they're "pushing." They WANT users to think of Metro as "the OS" and of the Desktop as "only an app."

    Yes, you can pull the little "hand cursor" down across the Desktop. But when you do that (with the Desktop or with any other screen) nothing is really being "closed" at all. That's just an illusion. All it really does is switch to the Start Screen, the same as pressing the Win key.

    And it's easy to prove that. Open a few windows on your Desktop. Then pull the hand cursor down and you see the Start Screen. Now click the Desktop tile, and all the windows you had open are back again and still open. So how can it be true that the Desktop was closed?
    WOW. . .logic again. . .
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  5. #135


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    Server 2012 / 8.0


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Drop View Post
    Yes, you can pull the little "hand cursor" down across the Desktop. But when you do that (with the Desktop or with any other screen) nothing is really being "closed" at all. That's just an illusion. All it really does is switch to the Start Screen, the same as pressing the Win key.
    right! The desktop is an illusion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Drop View Post
    the Desktop doesn't have a "Start Screen" icon
    What's this?

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    I don't see 8 as a capitalistic conspiracy.
    To me, it's just code.

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  6. #136


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    WOW. . .logic again. . .
    Such a nested quote structure? Whose logic? Curious?
    I don't know.


    @drop
    Anyway, what, I said you can't close Win32. Most comments are rather shallow, all emotion.
    If you know the coding of 8, it is clear that Win32 has been disconnected in several ways from WinRT.
    It's too complex an issue to explain and is not part of this thread topic.

    I expect there has been sufficient whining to force MS to make it simpler.
    Last edited by mdmd; 11 Feb 2014 at 21:14. Reason: fatigued
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  7. #137


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    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    I knew it, I knew there was a reason I rarely went there, or had to leave my desktop
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Drop View Post
    Obviously, Caperjack meant Metro apps, as opposed to the Desktop and its apps.
    What's obvious? Nothing. There have been numerous deleterious snarky remarks that target the metro UI.
    Lot's of folks simply resist with disdain all interest in using the default 8 start menu. That's it.

    I don't respond well to the desktop modus only group
    or those that preach mandatory adherence to proper usage.
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  9. #139


    Texas
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    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
    Good morning all:
    Slightly off topic here, but, would there be any problems activating the Windows 8.1 'Leak' version?
    Not really off topic, since we're talking about the leaked update; however . . .

    Be very careful of where you get the leaked version; there are those out there who would entice you and then destroy your computer with whatever it is they do.

    As for myself, self preservation as well as my years of beta testing for Microsoft pretty much forbid me from getting the leak. Doesn't mean I wouldn't love to get it and see what it's all about, though.

    Bottom line: As Tweety Bird would say, be careful; be vewy careful!
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  10. #140


    Posts : 1,720
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
    Good morning all:
    Slightly off topic here, but, would there be any problems activating the Windows 8.1 'Leak' version?
    Not really off topic, since we're talking about the leaked update; however . . .

    Be very careful of where you get the leaked version; there are those out there who would entice you and then destroy your computer with whatever it is they do.

    As for myself, self preservation as well as my years of beta testing for Microsoft pretty much forbid me from getting the leak. Doesn't mean I wouldn't love to get it and see what it's all about, though.

    Bottom line: As Tweety Bird would say, be careful; be vewy careful!
    Thank you for your reply and your advice. I'm always prepared for an 'Emergency Housecleaning'! I simply wanted to be able to access the Store and Personalization features.
    As for your curiosity, don't hold your breath, the feature 'enhancements' are nothing to brag about, (if they are even close to what we can expect in the real release!)
    Thanks again and have a great day.

    "Netting with care"
    Edwin
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