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Windows 8.1 Update 1 leaked

  1. #121


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean by that "give up control" comment. Me I'm not all that keen on doing big updates like going from 8.0 to 8.1 though the store. I'd rather just go right to 8.1 on a clean install. That's why I hope they eventually produce an 8.1.1 ISO that does it all in one shot. None of this going back and forth from Windows update to the Windows Store to get the current release.
    What you said. I don't want MS to install, I want to do it meself. However, what with Technet pretty much gone, and since I will no longer be able to download from there, I'm wondering where I'll get it.
    OK, I'm with you now. Yeah, its a shame its so hard to get actual official unmodified safe to use install media. My MVP status gets me access to TechNet and MSDN so I'll have my free MSDN account to fall back on. Assuming my MVP gets renewed that is. My TechNet doesn't run out until July so I should be able to get an 8.1.1 ISO if they actually put one up anyway. They gave a lot of users a 1 time 90 extension due to the closure.

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  2. #122


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean by that "give up control" comment. Me I'm not all that keen on doing big updates like going from 8.0 to 8.1 though the store. I'd rather just go right to 8.1 on a clean install. That's why I hope they eventually produce an 8.1.1 ISO that does it all in one shot. None of this going back and forth from Windows update to the Windows Store to get the current release.
    What you said. I don't want MS to install, I want to do it meself. However, what with Technet pretty much gone, and since I will no longer be able to download from there, I'm wondering where I'll get it.
    OK, I'm with you now. Yeah, its a shame its so hard to get actual official unmodified safe to use install media. My MVP status gets me access to TechNet and MSDN so I'll have my free MSDN account to fall back on. Assuming my MVP gets renewed that is. My TechNet doesn't run out until July so I should be able to get an 8.1.1 ISO if they actually put one up anyway. They gave a lot of users a 1 time 90 extension due to the closure.
    not to change the topic but ,
    you shouldn't have any problem getting renewed ,with all the great help you are giving on this forum ,I did for 4 years after the first year, didn't think I would last year, just not as active on the forum I first got nominated from! and since win8 problems, things are starting to go way over my head .
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  3. #123


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    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post

    What you said. I don't want MS to install, I want to do it meself. However, what with Technet pretty much gone, and since I will no longer be able to download from there, I'm wondering where I'll get it.
    OK, I'm with you now. Yeah, its a shame its so hard to get actual official unmodified safe to use install media. My MVP status gets me access to TechNet and MSDN so I'll have my free MSDN account to fall back on. Assuming my MVP gets renewed that is. My TechNet doesn't run out until July so I should be able to get an 8.1.1 ISO if they actually put one up anyway. They gave a lot of users a 1 time 90 extension due to the closure.
    not to change the topic but ,
    you shouldn't have any problem getting renewed ,with all the great help you are giving on this forum ,I did for 4 years after the first year, didn't think I would last year, just not as active on the forum I first got nominated from! and since win8 problems, things are starting to go way over my head .
    I'm hopeful, but don't want to take it for granted. I don't go to Seven forums as often as I should, mostly because I'm now running 8.1 on all my PC's. I still try to go there a couple of times a week. I come here every day several times a day. Some of the stuff is over my head but I try to get involved and maybe learn something. I've joined well over 20 forums over the years. Some I went to a lot some no so much. Some of them just aren't that active anymore with stuff that interests me so I go elsewhere. No worry of that happening here though, not for a long time to come I would think.
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  4. #124


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I run as admin because I don't need to be nagged every time I want to run something. I'm not going to enter my password every time I want to run an App or Program. It isn't going to happen. If I can't turn the nags off update 1 will never be installed on any of my PC's. The whole point of the Admin account is to have higher privileges. The standard account is so another user cannot mess up my PC by doing things I don't want them to do. Just my 2 cents on the matter.
    I agree with every time you want to run an app. I doubt that will be the case.
    It will be when you run an app that requires access to system level stuff.
    If that is the case, either the app needs to be rewritten by the developer cause it is not coded properly for security
    basically using old XP hacks that should have never been allowed. that is on the dev, not MS or Windows.
    Or you are using a Program that is using system level access stuff that is needed. Which should be very very few.
    There are not a lot of daily used programs that should ever require that level of access.

    Going back to Vista release, QuickBooks was one such program that had a hack that forced to run as admin.
    This was not needed in the software at all, it was lazy programming. Instead of providing a simple patch which they could have done,
    they fixed it and sold an upgrade. I don't blame them to some degree, cause it was allowed in the first place because people ran as admin for all those years in XP. But that is the problem.

    People now have the misconception that they are not empowered if not running as full admin, which is total BS.

    How many Linux distros run you Root out of the box? Not many, if they are setup properly. Otherwise, it SHOULD be considered a bad distro.
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  5. #125


    [QUOTE=Wynona;What you said. I don't want MS to install, I want to do it meself. However, what with Technet pretty much gone, and since I will no longer be able to download from there, I'm wondering where I'll get it.[/QUOTE]

    As I said in my earlier post. As far as I am aware, although things could change, it is coming via updates, TechNet not required. If it is only via an update, TechNet would not , in any case, provide it.
    Not sure how far you mean by "do it myself". However you configure your updates, they will, after being given the go, do it "themselves" , as would a fresh install. I guess it is how you look at it, but I don't really see a big difference in running a fairly substantial update or a total reinstall - unless you currently have a buggy install.
    And, again, so far, although I have installed the Escrow, I have not encountered a problem with a need to enter a password, or any authority, when installing and running a new program.

    P.S. Tepid's post may give an indication of a possible misunderstanding on the subject.
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  6. #126


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    BTW, in reading through the posts here, Coke Robot (how I wish real names were used in forums, sigh) made the point .
    LOL. I have jumped through that hoop on other forums. I think we would run out of possible combinations of names. On one, for example, I am registered as David12, as there were already, after a very brief intro, 11 other Davids.

    Some, of course, also prefer to be anon.
    Last edited by davehc; 11 Feb 2014 at 02:38.
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  7. #127


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    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    [QUOTE=Wynona;What you said. I don't want MS to install, I want to do it meself. However, what with Technet pretty much gone, and since I will no longer be able to download from there, I'm wondering where I'll get it.
    As I said in my earlier post. As far as I am aware, although things could change, it is coming via updates, TechNet not required. If it is only via an update, TechNet would not , in any case, provide it.
    Not sure how far you mean by "do it myself". However you configure your updates, they will, after being given the go, do it "themselves" , as would a fresh install. I guess it is how you look at it, but I don't really see a big difference in running a fairly substantial update or a total reinstall - unless you currently have a buggy install.
    And, again, so far, although I have installed the Escrow, I have not encountered a problem with a need to enter a password, or any authority, when installing and running a new program.

    P.S. Tepid's post may give an indication of a possible misunderstanding on the subject.[/QUOTE]

    It's a given that its going to show up either on Windows Update or through the Windows Store. That would be the route of most convenience for most people. In the past you could also download say a service pack in a stand alone installer. Its convenient if you have more than one PC to update and if its a big update. I'm with Wynona, I'd rather have the downloaded version. Microsoft in the past would also eventually release a new image with the service pack integrated into it. XP with SP3, 7 with SP2, and hopefully 8.1 with update 1. The service pack is easy to get, the ISO with it integrated into it no so easy to get. I think that's what Wynona is getting at. If you don't have TechNet or MSDN its tricky trying to find a clean unmodified ISO. Other than actually going out and buying it that is. That's a lot of money if all you need is the install media for reinstalls of your current setup.
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  8. #128


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    Good morning all:
    Slightly off topic here, but, would there be any problems activating the Windows 8.1 'Leak' version?
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  9. #129


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    It would be easier to install the 2 updates, then you wouldn't have to worry about activation..

    FILE: Windows8.1-KB2919442-x64.msu
    SIZE: 10,521,184 byte
    SHA1: BDAE9A24C9DB61B3E5847C016E5A8BE55205139C
    MD5: 9DEEFE76B12E5821540737AAEF43BFAD
    CRC: 9ABAEE71

    FILE: Windows8.1-KB2919355-x64.msu
    SIZE: 587,295,343 byte
    SHA1: AFE76E2F50BC68D59C5C3226F487E2BE7FAC0490
    MD5: 72CEE6131578015236DB90342E5429B1
    CRC: DBE50C23
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  10. #130


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tews View Post
    It would be easier to install the 2 updates, then you wouldn't have to worry about activation..

    FILE: Windows8.1-KB2919442-x64.msu
    SIZE: 10,521,184 byte
    SHA1: BDAE9A24C9DB61B3E5847C016E5A8BE55205139C
    MD5: 9DEEFE76B12E5821540737AAEF43BFAD
    CRC: 9ABAEE71

    FILE: Windows8.1-KB2919355-x64.msu
    SIZE: 587,295,343 byte
    SHA1: AFE76E2F50BC68D59C5C3226F487E2BE7FAC0490
    MD5: 72CEE6131578015236DB90342E5429B1
    CRC: DBE50C23
    Good morning:
    Thanks for the reply.
    What do those updates entail and, if applied, what is the end result?
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