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Despite Imminent Retirement, More Users Move to Windows XP

  1. #171


    USA, Idaho
    Posts : 1,062
    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    There are a lot of individuals that are truly cash strapped and they don't have an iPad or a smartphone. As to goverments agencies, that is different in different parts of the world. Not everybody can afford to run a debt of 15 trillion dollars. And especiallly in my country the cities are really in bad shape because of the enormous influx of refugees from all over the world that they have to take care of. 20% of the population comes from someplace else and most of those have no income. So the cities have to take care of them so that they have a halfway decent life. That has priority over computer upgrades.
    I was going to answer all your concerns, albeit it really wouldn't make much difference, so I will just say we will always disagree on this point.

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  2. #172


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    I know Lee. I think you are what one would call a 'conservative'. I am what one would call a 'liberal'. We could argue for days and not agree, LOL.
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  3. #173


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Somehow I don't think that anybody is talking about using XP on new machines, that would be such a waste, I think it's all about residuals, old computers that were made in the years when XP was highest version of Windows,
    Oh believe me, there's a build of Windows xp, Black I think it's called, that gets shared around the pirates of software that is actually used on modern hardware because "it uses less resources."

    I also doubt there is a higher influx of older PCs that are being upgraded to xp...
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  4. #174


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    There are a lot of individuals that are truly cash strapped and they don't have an iPad or a smartphone. As to goverments agencies, that is different in different parts of the world. Not everybody can afford to run a debt of 15 trillion dollars. And especiallly in my country the cities are really in bad shape because of the enormous influx of refugees from all over the world that they have to take care of. 20% of the population comes from someplace else and most of those have no income. So the cities have to take care of them so that they have a halfway decent life. That has priority over computer upgrades.
    I can understand if you're cashed strapped, been there, done that. But what I cannot understand are the latest rumors that large banks are ACTUALLY paying Microsoft upwards of 100 million dollars to keep support for xp for things like ATMs and other PCs versus actually using that money for upgrades. It boggles my mind to think that banks that have literal billions of dollars to spend choose to pay for extended support for a 13 year old operating system instead of upgrading machines and software to the proven latest and greatest of Windows. That I don't get and that concerns me. My financial institution JUST recently upgraded from xp to 7...

    That's the thing with IT, it's so overlooked until the last minute because of more obvious priorities....
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  5. #175


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Coke, that is indeed puzzling. I can only imagine that this is the cheapest solution for them. They probably have to replace all the hardware too if they migrate. And that could be a substantial bill - plus all the risks involved with a migration.
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  6. #176


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Coke, that is indeed puzzling. I can only imagine that this is the cheapest solution for them. They probably have to replace all the hardware too if they migrate. And that could be a substantial bill - plus all the risks involved with a migration.
    The way I see it, it's simply delaying the inevitable. They WILL have to upgrade their hardware eventually, they WILL have to update software eventually. By paying hundreds of millions of dollars, they're just adding onto their bill down the road. Five years of further support just means they can delay the inevitable a bit longer but at the same time when they ACTUALLY do upgrade, they'll already be in the hole several million dollars...
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  7. #177


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    I agree, this strategy is not easy to understand for a layman.
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  8. #178


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    ATM's run XP Embedded though don't they? That's a different can of worms as far the OS goes right?
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  9. #179


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    ATM's run XP Embedded though don't they? That's a different can of worms as far the OS goes right?
    ATMs as well as kiosks (self check out machines, Redboxes, etc) typically run xp embedded. That's a different OS and I believe Microsoft is still supporting that for a while, 2019 I want to say?
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  10. #180


    Posts : 9
    win7 and win8.1


    What's the use of upgrading to a new OS if the PC with XP is still functioning properly just for occasional email and browsing with no sensitive data stored on the computer
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