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Despite Imminent Retirement, More Users Move to Windows XP

  1. #151


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    Thank you. My point exactly. Letís reverse roles. Letís say Linux is the most used OS on the planet. Do you think there would be more malware to target Linux?
    Nice theory but that's not the way it is right now.

    What do either one of these sentences have to do with the subject at hand besides you trying to prove a point that Linux is safer
    I think you missed my point. If I had to run XP because I owned programs that I need and run only in XP (or I cannot or don't want to spend the money to upgrade), I would seperate the internet activities via a virtual Linux. That does not make the system 100% bullet proof but it is a lot better than running wide open with a system that is no more being maintained. Matter of degree - nothing is perfect.

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  2. #152


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Thank you. My point exactly. Letís reverse roles. Letís say Linux is the most used OS on the planet. Do you think there would be more malware to target Linux?
    Nice theory but that's not the way it is right now.

    What do either one of these sentences have to do with the subject at hand besides you trying to prove a point that Linux is safer
    I think you missed my point. If I had to run XP because I owned programs that I need and run only in XP (or I cannot or don't want to spend the money to upgrade), I would seperate the internet activities via a virtual Linux. That does not make the system 100% bullet proof but it is a lot better than running wide open with a system that is no more being maintained. Matter of degree - nothing is perfect.
    Ok. My misunderstanding. Your running a Linux VM within an XP machine for contact to the Inet, therefore shielding XP. That would decrease the odds of infection due to less malware aimed at Linux. More difficult to hack as well by placing more layers.

    Is a VM heavy laden on resources? I have two tabs of Modern/Metro IE, a Word doc, notepad, and Task Manager open and using Defender. It's eating 52% or 1GB of my Ram, which is half. How much more would a VM eat up?
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  3. #153


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    You define the amount of RAM that you like to allocate to the virtual machine. DSL will run in 256MB and Mint is best in 512MBs. It is also ok with only 1 core. But note, those resources will only be used when it is actually running and doing things. During that time the host is only humming along. For disk space you should figure appr. 10GBs for Mint - nearly half of that is used by VMware Player.

    I have all my virtual systems on an external SSD - even 8.1. That way I can attach them to any system. That is as fast as the internal SSD on eSata and nearly as fast on USB3. USB2 works but is a bit slower. Spinners work too but not as good. Even my fastest USB3 stick does not work well. No idea why because it is a lot faster than a spinner (see data below).

    For windows 8.1 that is a different story. I give it 3GB and 3 cores. But that is only on my desktops and my biggest laptop.

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  4. #154


    Nice setups, whs. They run leaner than I thought. My system cold handle that I think. I'd like to tinker with that some day. I'm too busy right now. Thanks for sharing.
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  5. #155


    As far as 8.1 requiring more resources, I'm not sure yet why this is the case. I certainly see it with server 2012r2. Compared to 2008 and standard 2012, the 2012r2 is really slow. At least under vmware workstation 10.

    Vms can be very lean. I usually give them between 512 and 2gb. The beauty is you can start then lie and just raise them off you need to, unlike a physical computer.

    I use a ton of vms. Between work and personal exploration and training classes and labs.
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  6. #156


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Nice setups, whs. They run leaner than I thought. My system cold handle that I think. I'd like to tinker with that some day. I'm too busy right now. Thanks for sharing.
    When you get to it and need more info, let me know. I'll make you a custom tut.
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  7. #157


    Posts : 58
    windows 8.1


    HippsieGypsie,

    What is using all of your RAM? Now I do know 8.1 eats resources like popcorn, but I switched to 8.1 to compare. I am only using 564 mb of RAM with the following...Firefox (with add on's), I have 6 tabs open and one tab is youtube listening to an album. Opened up the Task Manager and Notepad. Now my firewall is ZoneAlarm and I use avast! So perhaps Firefox and avast! use less resources? Interesting.
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  8. #158


    I meant to answer straightway, but got busy with other things.

    With nothing open and idling my RAM runs at about 35-40%. I sign into my PC with a MS account using Defender, native firewall, and Office 2013 Pro, so there are many background and Windows processes that run. 18 background and 26 Windows to be exact.

    MS Windows Search Indexer is a heavy in background processes at 13MB. All the others run at roughly 4-5MB average depending on activity.

    In Windows processes Services run at about 110MB. Windows Explorer at 32MB. Defender at 18MB. Desktop Manager at 14MB. All the others average at roughly 6MB each.

    Windows 7 ran a little higher than this with gadgets. They ate a lot. Glad to get rid of them.

    Why do you ask? Do you think this is high?
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  9. #159


    Posts : 58
    windows 8.1


    HippsieGypsie

    No, you are more than likely about right on. What I was trying to figure out was how you were running 64 bit on 1 GB of RAM. But, your spec's do state 2, so I got my question answered. I know with this system that I have 42 processes right now running in the background plus the two active, one being the virtual machine. And yes, running a virtual machine does use a bit of RAM. But please remember, I have not tweaked this machine and um I can get lazy and look at it like this...can I up the RAM? Yes? Good...easy fix. Sometimes the pain ain't worth the gain. Also, if it ain't broke...leave it alone.

    And when you are ready to try virtual, I know whs will get you going right. Read his stuff on that, and it got me up and running.

    And please, at least to me, you don't have to apologize for "life's issues". We all have them, and we get back when we can.
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  10. #160


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    And when you are ready to try virtual, I know whs will get you going right
    You bet and I am glad you got up and going.
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