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Five reasons I'd rather run Windows 8 than Linux

  1. #71


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    Windows 10 64-bit/ Windows 8.1 64-bit


    I prefer Windows 8/8.1 and operating systems post XP which I had some really nightmarish experiences with. (Say what you will about Vista but there were fundamental issues with XP that made it an insecure and ultimately troublesome OS long term). But I don't hate Linux. It basically runs my cheap little smartphone and gives my tablet a secure blanket against silliness but its too limiting to use as a serious OS for desktops and laptops.

    The author of the opinion piece seems to get quite petty and childish about it though. He's the advocate you get for the rational argument that turns a sure-to-win case into something that can go either way. His points had none of the finer reasons in the OS debate to go with Windows over Linux.

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  2. #72


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    its too limiting to use as a serious OS for desktops and laptops.
    In which regard do you think that Linux is limited ?
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  3. #73


    Quote Originally Posted by Allison View Post
    But I don't hate Linux. It basically runs my cheap little smartphone and gives my tablet a secure blanket against silliness but its too limiting to use as a serious OS for desktops and laptops.
    I don't think limiting is the right word. With so many distros, there is a lack of consistency which makes app support and documentation difficult. And you might be calling it limited because of the normal apps you are used to, like Microsoft office, are not natively available.
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  4. #74


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    Vista and Win7


    But you have Open Office or Libre Office which are pretty good too and do not cost a penny. Granted I can do more things with Power Point than with Impress, but that is mainly because I am used to PP and have never taking the time to study Impress thoroughly.

    On the other hand look what you can do with Gimp compared to any photo program that comes out of Microsoft - and I am not talking about the $900 OEM editing suites.
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  5. #75


    Don't get me wrong, I'm a Linux guy. I was just trying to speak from their perspective as I envisioned it.
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  6. #76


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there

    With a little bit of research nearly everything can be done in Linux - especially with later distros -- hot swapping usb drives etc absolutely no problem including NTFS (Windows) formatted external USB drives / sticks for reading /writing.

    Multi-media formatting (Handbrake) exists in Linux as well as several media streaming programs and also Calibre e-book management.

    I only absolutely keep Windows now for Ms Office (Libre office while good is still no competitor for power users of things like EXCEL), a SAP GUI (need windows front end to access SAP on several corporate sites, and PHOTOSHOP. I have a few CAD type programs and engineering stuff which I need windows for as well but these are not typical "Home user" programs !!

    DVD playing is a doddle in Linux (VLC works of course and several more) and Networking is actually easier than Windows and usually works straight out of the box. VMWARE and VBOX run just fine so no probs having Linux as HOST with WINDOWS as GUEST.

    Even things like Mp3tag can be done with an identical clone puddletag - enc screenshot -- looks familiar !!!

    Running Windows as a VM in UNITY mode gives the advantage of BOTH systems.


    Scrshot of Linux Mp3tag clone (puddletag). Running on OPENSUSE 13.1 KDE desktop. (Runs fine on Mint too).

    Don't get me wrong -- Windows is fine for the great masses out there - but using Linux these days on a desktop is far far simpler and less geekish than ever if people want to do it -- and with things like Unity mode available there is no reason with some decent configuration why it shouldn't be implemented on desktops in some instances -- but Windows won't go away it's still just TOO useful too.

    As for Networking the screenshot shows two windows boxes and a Linux box (marked). The remote connection from Windows worked straight out of the box !! --I had to fiddle around to get the two windows machines to connect in Windows !! (one XP the other W8.1) !!

    Showing also connection TO windows from Linux box - that worked first go !!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7. #77


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Hello @ Jimbo. Do you look like your avatar?

    Five reasons I'd rather run Windows 8 than Linux
    Microsoft SQL - Visual C++
    NO Synaptic Package Manager
    .EXE
    .NET natively

    NO needed emulators / virtuals
    Netflix / Deskscapes / Winstep
    WinTV / Sound Blaster Tru Studio

    Best feature of Linux - FREE

    I never really liked the reversed tiny close buttons.
    Also, what is a serious OS?

    ok. I know. Servers, Spreadsheets, cross translators, multi task windows ok. ok. ok. ok.
    UNIX is definitely a proven system.
    I used to do my project reports in College in a massive computer room on a dumb terminal that ran VAX UNIX.
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  8. #78


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    I submit that 90% of the users do not need any fancy functions and would do well with a system like the one I showed in post #70. And the other 10% are geeky enough to figure out how to do things.

    Some of the Linux distros have come a long way in terms of user friendliness and are far from the old Terminal days (except the Redhat stuff). Many things are easier in Linux than in Windows and there are the reverse cases of course too.

    We all hang on to windows because that is our home and we got used to the myriad of programs that we know and make our life easier. But that does not mean that similar equivalent programs are not available in Linux. We are probably just too comfy in our current role.
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  9. #79


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    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    ... Many things are easier in Linux than in Windows and there are the reverse cases of course too.

    We all hang on to windows because that is our home and we got used to the myriad of programs that we know and make our life easier. But that does not mean that similar equivalent programs are not available in Linux. We are probably just too comfy in our current role.
    Easier ? Depends on how you define easier. I always got the impression, what the hey, it's free, so ...
    I have the day off so I'll do a Sheldon Cooper and install a Laynux Partition .

    I don't see how clinging to setup.exe constitutes a comfy state. That seems easier to me.
    In fact, there is not a global alternative option for programs or drivers that are compatible with Linux.
    Most software vendors are not going to make their products compatible with Linux.

    As for this end user, I peruse the massive list of FREE Linux applications included.
    100% of them are unwanted. No Mozilla, Konqueror, Open Office, Crypto Imaging, XYZ Tools,
    Gimp - what's that?

    And for iconography, I am unimpressed with tiny untexted pictograms that are supposed to be identified.

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    ... We all hang on to windows because that is our home and we got used to the myriad of programs that we know and make our life easier. But that does not mean that similar equivalent programs are not available in Linux. We are probably just too comfy in our current role.
    Interesting. I think Apple fans would dispute all.

    the myriad of programs that we know and make our life easier
    ok. I am a fan of InstallShield.

    Too comfy? So we should be less comfy? Unless the Laynux distro is embedded, as in a phone or tablet,
    it's possible the only true imperative for its use is the FREE label.
    Of course Linux fans will always cling to the IQ level needed as a badge of honor.

    I like GParted.
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  10. #80


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Even things like Mp3tag can be done with an identical clone puddletag - enc screenshot -- looks familiar !!!
    I could not get that particular program to work.
    I could add changes in the program window, but it would never apply them to the files.

    IMO, one of the problems is that the GUI tools are only ~50% finished, unlike the 80% - 90% finished Windows GUI tools.

    For example, the basic tag info can be added to mp3 files using Windows Explorer, but the default file managers that come with Linux can't do it.
    However the Linux file managers have:
    • Tabs
    • Panes
    • More Navigation options
    • Multi-level simultaneous Copy/Cut/Paste ability

    You could make an almost perfect file manager, if you merged the best features of both.

    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    As for this end user, I peruse the massive list of FREE Linux applications included.
    100% of them are unwanted. No Mozilla, Konqueror, Open Office, Crypto Imaging, XYZ Tools,
    Gimp - what's that?
    If you only use MS programs then you won't find them in Linux.

    I only open IE on the rare occasions that I blunder into an IE only site, otherwise I use Pale Moon (Firefox).
    The Spell Check is rubbish though.

    How do you edit pictures?
    MS Paint?
    IMO, Adobe GUIs are horrifyingly awful (every one of them) which makes GIMP a lot easier to use than Photoshop.
    Photoshop has more tools though.

    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    And for iconography, I am unimpressed with tiny untexted pictograms that are supposed to be identified.

    Click image for larger version
    At least they don't require an entire HD monitor screen to display them.

    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    I like GParted.
    GParted is my preferred partitioning tool.
    I always use it to allocate my HDD space.

    I've heard rumours that the latest version isn't as good a the previous one.
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