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Five reasons I'd rather run Windows 8 than Linux

  1. #61


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    Yanno, while I prefer windows, I am happy for the fact that Linux exists. Happy, because if windows ever goes completely crazy, and, say, goes all metro, or cloud only, or some other unimaginable nonsense, there'll likely be a flavor of linux that I can stand rather than windows.
    I agree fully with that.

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  2. #62


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    Win 8.1 Pro


    Windows of course will remain on the vast majority of desktops unless a) ms persists with subscription software models, b) ms forces everyone to use the Cloud as much as possible and c) ms continues trying to make people think their desktops and workstations are perfectly suited to running a Mobile phone type of OS.
    Uhg, this is not true...

    You are not required. nor forced into any of these things. why the fud?
    It is encouraged to use some of the services, but you don't have to do it.

    But with that said, again, for what literally could be the billionth time, Windows 8 has zero issues working with Keyboard and mouse
    is actually easier to navigate and find things than the old start button, can be setup to never see the start screen. sheesh.

    As for the WP, it is a great phone and works very well. Very very well, and WP8.1 just expanded on it.
    It very much has become a very mature Phone in a very short period of time.
    I have zero issues using it, and WP8.1 made it even more fun, and it is only getting better.

    I ask again, where is the Ubuntu Phone?
    After how many years, and it is no where to be found. You can't even buy one on Amazon.

    As for Linux, it will not get any more ground than it does without some kind of Corporate Front End Desktop use on a large scale to become anything more than a fringe hobbyist OS.

    Again, i have no issues with Linux, wish it were more prevalent, not trying to start a flame war, but let's be honest, shall we?
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  3. #63


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    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post

    But with that said, again, for what literally could be the billionth time, Windows 8 has zero issues working with Keyboard and mouse
    is actually easier to navigate and find things than the old start button, can be setup to never see the start screen. sheesh.

    Comedy gold.
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  4. #64


    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    As for Linux, it will not get any more ground than it does without some kind of Corporate Front End Desktop use on a large scale to become anything more than a fringe hobbyist OS.

    Again, i have no issues with Linux, wish it were more prevalent, not trying to start a flame war, but let's be honest, shall we?
    Philosophically this will not happen. It's not what the Linux system is all about.

    On the desktop, I agree it's a hobbyist OS. In the enterprise though, it's a different story. As far as servers go, we have about 600 servers, 450+ of which are Linux based. Many of these servers have been running trouble free without a single reboot for over 2.5 years.
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  5. #65


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    Win 8.1 Pro


    But we are not talking about servers. We are talking about desktop replacement/alternatives.


    People will push the virtues of Linux all day long. Do you mean to say that is all in vain? Knowing the real, not perceived, shortcomings of a fragmented fringe hobbyists OS?


    If it is will known that Linux will never become nor does the Linux community even want Linux to become mainstream, then why propose it as such ever?


    Peanut butter, gummy bears, and anchovies served in a chocolate bowl may taste good, but it's not a proper daily diet.
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  6. #66


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there

    This topic is sort of degenerating into a BMW vs Mercedes Vs Audi type of argument. In fact it doesn't matter who uses what -- after all nobody is suggesting that Apple's IOS should become the standard OS for desktops --it's a good safe OS and usually most things work straight out of the box. Like Windows it's full of proprietary stuff but allow a bit of open source into it and it could compete with windows - but it won't and there's no reason for it to do so.

    Users will choose whatever OS suits them -- those who aren't bothered will just stick with Windows as they always have simply because it's installed on the computer when they bought it.

    Linux will be used by those who want something different from an OS and who don't want to be locked in to Ms software.

    Actually Users will adapt to anything if the hardware is loaded with the relevant OS. There are literally BILLIONS of people using Android devices (Android is a another Linux type of OS) who have never used Linux before and manage quite nicely with it - probably the vast majority using it neither know nor care that the OS is Linux based in any case.

    The value of Linux is that it's THERE, it's a competent OS and people are free to use it or not. For some things it's streets ahead of Windows, for others Windows still is the choice.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7. #67


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Actually Users will adapt to anything if the hardware is loaded with the relevant OS. There are literally BILLIONS of people using Android devices (Android is a another Linux type of OS) who have never used Linux before and manage quite nicely with it - probably the vast majority using it neither know nor care that the OS is Linux based in any case.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    That's true, give me my apps, such as MS Office, Visio, QuickBook, etc., on a desktop and I'll care not what the platform is.

    Android is more of an embedded OS, or iOS as Apple calls it, that had been developed from Linux. Made available for free to manufacturer's of the smart devices, instead of licensing, has its impact to the market share. Google developing/making Android available for free is good business decision. MS making $10-15 on each Android phone is even a better one...
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  8. #68


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there.

    My last word on this as the topic IMO has run its course

    One of our servers where I'm currently on contract is a Linux server that supplies a desktop operating in UNITY mode -- Users have access to the Standard Ms office suite and a few other well known Windows apps .

    They haven't had any problems as far as I have heard using the Unity desktop as opposed to "Pure Windows" - and they log on to the server with their own Windows / Macs or Linux laptops.

    I'm not sure how much work went in to supplying / creating the obvious "Virtual Infrastructure" behind all this but the users haven't had a single problem with using the system (other than the usual run of the mill I.T support stuff --lost passwords etc etc).

    There's isolation from things like Desktop USB devices -- so the network doesn't get "contaminated" via external USB stuff. - You can copy from or write to your USB device only from your Home directory (individual work area) and Bit locker is enabled on the device otherwise device is rejected.

    Seems to work fine -- nobody has had any Virus problems

    If you provide the right environment then the users will be quite happy as the previous poster says to continue to use all their regular applications - Ms office being one in particular -- as before.

    It seems to me that the decision to go for the Virtual Desktop infrastructure and allow use of BYOD's instead of upgrading a load of PC's from XP to W7 or whatever was a sensible one -- for all I know the OFFICE suite might STILL be on an XP system but obviously Virtualized. Internet access is also managed appropriately and we also have a "public" unmonitored Wi-Fi system that is not connected to the work network in any way either - but this can't be accessed once you have logged on to the main servers. People use this Wi-Fi with their phones / tablets etc .

    The point of this lubugrious post was simply to say - provide the right desktop environment - and people will use it whatever the underlying OS is -- so maybe Linux on a lot of desktops isn't a totally impossible scenario.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  9. #69


    Well because their is only One Windows 8 and when I do a google search for the top 50 Linux Distros I get many hits. Although i like Mint which i have installed in a VM to play with. I have installed some distros in VM's that I deleted right after the installs finished.
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  10. #70


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    Vista and Win7


    I think the Windows 8.1 development is going into the right direction for the desktop - it was not right when 8 first came out. I currently use it on two of my minor systems and if they keep improving it, I might even use it on my main systems. Right now I don't see a reason yet to switch because 7 has everything I need.

    But I am also running a couple of Linux systems - more as a hobby. You can do nice things with them and the UI is really easy to deal with. In many respects it is easier than Windows. You just have to pick the right distro - and that's where most Linux novices have the problem.

    Here is a demo of one of my Linux systems. This one is actually running from a USB stick. You will see that it is a nice and easy system.


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