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Five reasons I'd rather run Windows 8 than Linux

  1. #41


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    Windows 8.1 x64


    Ubuntu would not install on my ASUS M4A785-M AM2+ m/b, ATI HD 4200 onboard with VGA/HDMI/DVI-D, AMD Phenom II 8900 3-core, Mushkin Chronos SSD, ASUS 22X DVD-RW setup, nor on a Lexar Jump S70 16GB USB.

    Believe me, in the wake of Hεαrtblεεd, I wanted to install Ubuntu rather than Windows 8.1 - as much as I really do like Windows 8.1.

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  2. #42


    What does Heartbleed have to do with type of OS ?
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  3. #43


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    What does Heartbleed have to do with type of OS ?
    Hi there
    What does it even haver to do with the Thread itself !!!.

    The main reasons I use Windows are
    1) I need Windows for Work
    2) It came already installed on my computer -- although I always replace the supplied bloatware with a proper OS - you know the hardware drivers etc have already been installed and work properly.
    3) Ms Office and Photoshop are the applications I really would miss if I didn't use Windows - there are alternatives --for example Libre Office is Ok-ish but as an EXCEL and Power point power user the Linux app doesn't even come close.

    (Wine BTW doesn't run some of the things I would like -- and it's NOT a trivial matter to get it working either).

    Linux though these days has much better hardware detection - and also plug 'n play so USB devices etc are recognized when they are plugged in -- you don't have to go through laborious mount commands etc. Those who haven't used Linux for some while might be quite amazed at the changes -- some distributions are actually "More Windows than Windows" !!.

    Linux is far more configurable than Windows -- don't like a GUI, pick another one-- GNOME / KDE/LXDE to name but a few.
    Want a menu -- have one, don't want one - don't.

    Linux (almost ANY distribution) always has had FAR FAR better networking which usually works straight out of the box -- even after all these years I still get the odd IDENTICAL computer to others in a network IN WINDOWS that just won't connect properly for some obscure reason.

    Linux's weaknesses are in the sheer numbere of distros -- but if you stick to one of the 5 most used ones then you are safe -- DEBIAN, UBUNTU, MINT, OPENSUSE, FEDORA.

    Commercial servers are often based on STABLE Enterprise Linuxes such as RED HAT, SUSE (SLES) which are extremely stable and robust.

    Multi-media is also a breeze with Linux - all freeware too. Security is far superior as well.

    These days before condemning Linux just download a live CD and try it -- they all boot from a USB if you want-- no change will be done to your Windows system. You might be quite surprised. Most of these "Live CD's" will run very fast on modern hardware too.

    Sometimes when reading the Forums I get the impression that some comments have just been copied verbatim from another website without the poster actually TRYING the application concerned or experiencing the problem written about.

    One thing's for sure about Linux though -- It's NOT going to suck me into any sort of "Subscription" service for software which I believe Ms is quietly preparing us for -- it's already got Office365 and it's NOT as cheap as you might think -- especially in some countries where you have to add the VAT on to the price.

    Actually it wouldn't surprise me if these very Forums are being hosted on some type of Linux server too -- I don't know what the mods are using but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it was actually Linux. !!!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. #44


    I use Linux Mint 16 live distro but only for some troubleshooting mainly with HW, because of closer relation to hardware. Also good for saving infected files or just plainly screwed up ones. The reason I can't use it full time is that applications I need and use most of the time and there's no Linux equivalent.
    Runing Linux takes different set of mind than MS stuff for somebody not proficient with it's file system but in a lot of cases also the way to install and run applications and there's a lot of differences between distros (looks not withstanding). I'd say a lot of people are intimidated just by installation and "different" looks and menus.
    Believe me, I'd be using Linux as primary system if I had everything I need for it but this way I just can't see myself to get any deeper into 2 separate systems just because of some stuff I don't like in Windows.
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  5. #45


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there.

    Not trying to Hijack the thread or go that stupid route Linux Vs Windows -- pointless in the extreme and a total waste of time -- but I would say that excluding say corporate enterprise stuff that usually needs a Windows front end / client (i.e your desktop) to access them there are very few applications (excluding games of course) that have no Linux equivalents to those you can get in Windows.

    I now run Windows always as Virtual machines these days -- W7 for corporate stuff, XP for some old legacy hardware, W8.1 for testing / current ms office, photoshop and a few other things) and have either Opensuse 13.1, Debian Wheezy or Linux Mint as the host OS.

    I like Linux Mint 16 but there's some politicking going over the release frequencies and my experience with Mint is that it's almost a NO NO to upgrade -- you need to re-install the new release and that's where Windows has the advantage - it's fairly easy to UPGRADE the system -- after a new Linux install you usually have a bit of work to do in getting the system just right for you -- worth it in the end but a lot of people won't have the time or inclination to do it.

    Opensuse and Debian have fairly long release periods and in particular opensuse benefits from SUSE's commercial server offerings (SLES etc) so is guaranteed a long term future without drastic changes. I dropped Ubuntu after that catastrophic Unity thing (don't confuse with running a VM in "Unity mode") and seeing the difficulties the open source community is having with CANONICAL -- don't want to go there.

    So I'll eventually probably keep Opensuse - but will see what happens when Linux Mint 17 appears.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. #46


    Jimbo, you are a real "multitasker" as far as I can see. Most people see multitasking as chewing gum and walking, so using multiple OSs is way out. Just a bit of change like going from 8.1 to latest update, threw a lot of people out of whack.
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  7. #47


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there

    It's not that --but :

    a) I have to have Win 7 to run some really old Dinosaur applications -- Office / Enterprise Software changes quite rarely -- it is usually a massive increase in cost and several years work changing I.T systems that are used in Supply chains, CRM, and almost every other large business process you can think of.

    b) I like to have some different Language versions of Office - I work in a few countries so it's nice to be able to switch at will - hence the need for some sort of portable system which can be used all over the place

    c) don't really like the direction Ms appears to be leading us in so getting used to sensible alternatives IMO is a good idea -- and even if eventually I don't use the alternatives it's a good learning experience --never too old to learn.

    Win 8.1 does have some advantages -- however really would like to see what happens with W9.

    In a way you could say I'm "hedging my bets".

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  8. #48


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there

    It's not that --but :

    a) I have to have Win 7 to run some really old Dinosaur applications -- Office / Enterprise Software changes quite rarely -- it is usually a massive increase in cost and several years work changing I.T systems that are used in Supply chains, CRM, and almost every other large business process you can think of.

    b) I like to have some different Language versions of Office - I work in a few countries so it's nice to be able to switch at will - hence the need for some sort of portable system which can be used all over the place

    c) don't really like the direction Ms appears to be leading us in so getting used to sensible alternatives IMO is a good idea -- and even if eventually I don't use the alternatives it's a good learning experience --never too old to learn.

    Win 8.1 does have some advantages -- however really would like to see what happens with W9.

    In a way you could say I'm "hedging my bets".

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Me too, but.... "Future is not for men to see" but M$ will like to make it without knowing what's around the corner and that's known to bite ones tail that attempts to push too hard.
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  9. #49


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    Win 8.1 Pro


    Sorry Jim, it's not true.

    There are very few equivalents to Windows software that could be considered usable.
    Most are slapped together, here something you can use, but we will drop support before you know it, type stuff.
    Yes there is software that does get some support, but the level of quality, or cross app compatibility is a joke.

    I wish it weren't true, but it is

    When you don't have the market share and the revenue to produce, you can't create any thing to compete.

    That's the Linux communities fault though, not a consumer one.

    Fragmentation is the deathnell of any organization, group or country.

    Case in point, where is the Ubuntu Phone?
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  10. #50


    Posts : 376
    W8.1, W7


    Am regularly having tests of some Linux incarnation, am ok with the OS itself, but one good reason for not staying with it, w8 (or w7) runs my favorite programs, Linux does not (yet).
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