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Five reasons I'd rather run Windows 8 than Linux

  1. #21


    Posts : 29
    Manjaro Linux/Ubuntu 12.04 LTS/Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    My question is, Windows has been around for over 20 years and YET there isn't one solid Linux distro that can actually meet or exceed the whole capabilities of Windows? If anything, it's not Microsoft's fault, it's the fault of people that feel like they should band together and do something about it.
    UK's security branch says Ubuntu most secure end-user OS | ZDNet

    Something unique about Linux is that you can mount windows partitions on it.
    Linux can also virus check windows with avg, avast, clamav etc...
    Last edited by SteamGamer; 29 Jan 2014 at 16:57.

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  2. #22


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by SteamGamer View Post
    First comment response: How about using virtualbox to Install windows within Ubuntu.
    I don't trust VirtualBox as it come from the same company as Java.

    I use VMware Player in Linux Mint 16 MATE (64 bit).

    Quote Originally Posted by SteamGamer View Post
    Second comment response:
    In linux you need a /root partion /home partition and a swap partition. These are configured automatically if you choose to make a full Ubuntu install or if you have enough space to install it alongside Windows.
    Perhaps Ubuntu has an improved installer now.

    Linux Mint still expects me to repeat myself, when trying to install it on my triple boot setup.

    I've always had to select the partition for the OS, twice:
    • I have to select the partition for the OS
    • Tell it to install the OS on that partition


    It's never been an issue with VMs, as I never create multi-boot VMs.
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  3. #23


    Joisey
    Posts : 315
    Windows 8.1 consumer 64 bit


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post

    Perhaps Ubuntu has an improved installer now.
    Ubuntu was dead easy to install. Just answer questions (language, time zone, etc.), like installing windows. When it is done it boots to a windows-like GUI and you are off and running. No need for a command line unless you want it. No, it won't run any of the zillions of windows programs out there, but many people today need little more than a browser, and Ubuntu comes with firefox.
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  4. #24


    Posts : 29
    Manjaro Linux/Ubuntu 12.04 LTS/Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by mikeytg View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post

    Perhaps Ubuntu has an improved installer now.
    Ubuntu was dead easy to install. Just answer questions (language, time zone, etc.), like installing windows. When it is done it boots to a windows-like GUI and you are off and running. No need for a command line unless you want it. No, it won't run any of the zillions of windows programs out there, but many people today need little more than a browser, and Ubuntu comes with firefox.
    Yes I agree it is quite easy to install Ubuntu and there is no need for the command line unless you want it. You might not be able to install every Windows Program out their but you can install a lot of them under Wine which I had mentioned in an earlier post.

    Wine is a Windows compatibility layer available on Linux that will install any Microsoft Office programs, games such as World of Tanks, World of Warcraft etc...

    Search to see if your windows program or game is available on Wine.
    WineHQ - Wine Application Database

    Crossover is also available to install windows programs on linux they are the makers of wine but do a better job making there end user product crossover.

    Run Windows on Mac and Linux, easily and affordably - CodeWeavers

    Wine is free .

    Crossover costs 59.95 and may be able run more things more efficiently.

    PlayonLinux is free and they should get an honorable mention because they make Wine run more efficiently.

    Home - PlayOnLinux - Run your Windows applications on Linux easily!
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  5. #25


    Posts : 87
    Windows 7 Pro 64


    Whoever thinks Linux (which of the 200 distros?) is a real alternative, probably still is a student or lives in his parents' basement. If you are at a semi-professional workplace you will know that MS Office is irreplaceable (or who has an outlook alternative I can schedule through the entire network including my phone etc.).
    Every major commercial software is tailored to run on Windows. They are made very specific to windwos versions and there is no way "wine" or other products would actually properly work.

    The cost of windows also is irreelvant (for people that have jobs). If you keep an OS for 6 years, it will cost $30 /a in license fee. For my work software (all together have a purchsing price of close to $10,000) I pay almost $ 2,000 in annual subscription. I think it goes without sayign that they only run on windows and the $30 for the OS are totally not relevant. just employees having to learn one thing will cost more than the OS fee if an employee only loses 20 minutes every year..

    All these windows and Office alternatives are fine and dandy whe you only use them at home, have a lot of time, and don't have to work with outside people. But if you go beyond browsing, some private emails and some private typing and calculating, you need MS products.

    I'm not a fan of MS, and wish there were alternatives. But as soon as you do any sort of PC work, you realize MS is the lesser evil. Free is not free if your time is worth anything. If Linux was actually as useful as Windows, wouldn't you think 99% of the people would use it by now?

    Linux is just before breaking through, the same way they were just before breakign through for the last 20 years. Just the fact that there isn't one or, maybe 5 versions of linux is a dealbreaker. Depending on who you beleive Linux has 1% marketshare. divide that by 200 distros and you see they don't even exist. Vista hasn't changed that, neither will W8. A professional software comapnay coudl never devote resources to develop a Linux versions since they would have to pick which one will be the newest fad. There barely is professional software for Macs, that have 5% marketshare. What makes you think any of the Linux distros will see professional software ever?

    We will have electric vehicles, all renewable energy, and world peace before Linux is relevant outside the server world. Yes I know, Mac Os and Android are some sort of Linux, but they are bound to a device and are pre-setup to work on that specific device with applications approved by the respective manufacturer. Windows gives you the freedom to actually get MS-independent software.
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  6. #26


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    Manjaro Linux/Ubuntu 12.04 LTS/Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun View Post
    Whoever thinks Linux (which of the 200 distros?) is a real alternative, probably still is a student or lives in his parents' basement. If you are at a semi-professional workplace you will know that MS Office is irreplaceable (or who has an outlook alternative I can schedule through the entire network including my phone etc.).
    Every major commercial software is tailored to run on Windows. They are made very specific to windwos versions and there is no way "wine" or other products would actually properly work.

    The cost of windows also is irreelvant (for people that have jobs). If you keep an OS for 6 years, it will cost $30 /a in license fee. For my work software (all together have a purchsing price of close to $10,000) I pay almost $ 2,000 in annual subscription. I think it goes without sayign that they only run on windows and the $30 for the OS are totally not relevant. just employees having to learn one thing will cost more than the OS fee if an employee only loses 20 minutes every year..

    All these windows and Office alternatives are fine and dandy whe you only use them at home, have a lot of time, and don't have to work with outside people. But if you go beyond browsing, some private emails and some private typing and calculating, you need MS products.

    I'm not a fan of MS, and wish there were alternatives. But as soon as you do any sort of PC work, you realize MS is the lesser evil. Free is not free if your time is worth anything. If Linux was actually as useful as Windows, wouldn't you think 99% of the people would use it by now?

    Linux is just before breaking through, the same way they were just before breakign through for the last 20 years. Just the fact that there isn't one or, maybe 5 versions of linux is a dealbreaker. Depending on who you beleive Linux has 1% marketshare. divide that by 200 distros and you see they don't even exist. Vista hasn't changed that, neither will W8. A professional software comapnay coudl never devote resources to develop a Linux versions since they would have to pick which one will be the newest fad. There barely is professional software for Macs, that have 5% marketshare. What makes you think any of the Linux distros will see professional software ever?

    We will have electric vehicles, all renewable energy, and world peace before Linux is relevant outside the server world. Yes I know, Mac Os and Android are some sort of Linux, but they are bound to a device and are pre-setup to work on that specific device with applications approved by the respective manufacturer. Windows gives you the freedom to actually get MS-independent software.
    I have heard this exact same argument before by paid Microsoft Bloggers.....



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  7. #27


    Well folks, I think that all boils down to software available to do what one needs to do. OS is a bridge between HW and SW and nothing more. You can hate or love it but windows simply has by far largest base of software out there (that's what made them most used OS, for PC devices in the first place).
    I don't care if OS is called Windows, Shmindows, Lnux or Minux or whatever, just want enough software to do wide range of things I need / want to do on my PC, period. That's why I find all those fights about which OS is best, if software you use fits you, use it, whatever it is. If you can get by with free OS and what programs made for it can do, by any means, use it, if it's free, even better but please do not tell me that it is better or worst than other ones. if it works as advertised it's good enough.
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  8. #28


    Joisey
    Posts : 315
    Windows 8.1 consumer 64 bit


    Why so defensive? I was obviously talking about a casual home user. Of course most business users need to use Windows.
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  9. #29


    Posts : 376
    W8.1, W7


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Well folks, I think that all boils down to software available to do what one needs to do.
    Yes. Have tried Linux several times, could have lived nicely with the OS itself, but would have to say goodbye to some of my favorite programs, not an option.
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  10. #30


    Wine is a Windows compatibility layer available on Linux that will install any Microsoft Office programs, games such as World of Tanks, World of Warcraft etc...
    Actually, NO, it won't run "any" Windows programs -- I know from experience about this, having used various Linux distros now for over 10 years. If you were to check the WineHQ link to look at app ratings, you would find more than half of them poor -- meaning, the Windows app, if it works, will barely work.

    Plus, the two most frequently used Windows apps (Office and Internet Explorer) will only work in Wine with very old versions. In Office, some of Office 2010 works but you have to go back to 2007 to get a useful amount of functionality. With IE (and yes, LOTS of folks still use this ...) you have to go back to version 8 to get one that works.

    Gaming is an even worse experience in Wine, largely because AMD has abandoned all but the most recent chip versions in providing restricted Linux drivers -- which are critical to getting good frame rates.

    If you have to resort to Virtualization to get the Windows apps/games you need working well -- then, basically, you're not using Linux; you're using Windows.
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