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Five reasons I'd rather run Windows 8 than Linux

  1. #111


    Quote Originally Posted by nonono View Post
    Its not that i dont like it, i just like to keep things as simple as possible, i dont give a damn about what most of the people do in this world. A choise is given to people be the devil, therefore i prefer one perfect and simple way to do one thing. A choise leads to competition, competition leads to lower quality, as most people dont care about quality, they just want more functionality, you can see for yourself how low microsoft has felt with that. I prefer quality and speed over functionality.
    Wish it was that simple for me. Most of my life I was presented with multiple choices and required multiple solutions at the same time so early in life I had to get used to multitasking were there was mo simple, one way out. Changed few countries, couple of continents and many jobs and could never say there was only one thing I can simplify things to. It's nothing different than working with computers, can't just stay at one thing even if it seams perfect at the time and nothing is perfect anyway.

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  2. #112


    Well, you can always use multiple partitions, multiple hdds, external hdds for data, then you wont need to rescue any data, plus you can have one usb flash with full system backup of C: disk, and one with some bootable backup/restore software, so that eliminates linux live for backups, and there also are things like hirens boot cd (if you buy some programs, you can legally use them in hirens too, there are also some editions only with free software), which you can use for restoring your windows backup as well, it has many different programs for the whole pc maintenance, plus it has live modes of windows xp/7 and so on. Plus talking about restoring deleted files, linux kind of sucks : it has only command line tools, and most of them are very bad, because it dont play well with windows file systems like exfat, those programs can only scan full hdd and restore the whole deleted content, where as in windows all the tools have gui versions, so you can just open program, press scan button, and select files that you want to restore. So yeah, the point is to know how to do things in your environment, to have tools to fix things. And one more thing. You know what they say, one a linux man can catch virus with windows It also depends on which network you are, bigger companies networks are more likely to be attacked, i had like 2 viruses in 10 years, both were blocked by antivirus, one tried to get in when my pc was connected to the internet via some companies network, and the other one was when was visiting some crackzzzzzz site.

    But seriously, this false virtual world security is overrated, i'm more concerned about real life security, about all these *******s that drives cars like crazy, or all the guns that people have, and other stupid people, who things, that guns are made for peace and to kill kittens. You can die from one of them 1000 times before you will catch a virus with windows and loose your private pron collection.
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  3. #113


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    Well, you can always use multiple partitions, multiple hdds, external hdds for data, then you wont need to rescue any data, plus you can have one usb flash with full system backup of C: disk, and one with some bootable backup/restore software, so that eliminates linux live for backups
    Yeah, of course. I make images at least once per week of all my systems and the data is always on a seperate disk or partition. But tell that to the little old ladies in my computer club. I have taught several classes about imaging, but most still dont do it.

    And the extra data partition is a challenge too. Most have laptops and those come nearly all the time with 4 primary partitions - which is stupid. For them to convert a couple of partitions to logical so that they can create an extended partition for their data is far beyond their capabilities.

    To give you an idea of the level of skill those people have: When IE9 came out, the favorites were on the right top in lieu of the left top like in IE8. We upgraded all the club systems to IE9. But there were so many complaints about the favorites being on the "wrong side", that the club decided to go back to IE8. That may sound stupid, but that's what we deal with. 90% of those people know how to click on the 5 icons on their desktop, but anything beyond that is terra incognita.
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  4. #114


    It's one thing doing stuff like that in my own system, I have so many backups and safety measures so I can be fairly confident I and my systems are going to survive most anything. Another thing is when I have to deal with other people's computers and I deal with that because they are not able to do that so any tool that can give me an edge I will and do use. Not stupid enough to go to gun fight with a knife.
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  5. #115


    Well, sometimes knife is all you need.
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  6. #116


    Quote Originally Posted by nonono View Post
    Well, sometimes knife is all you need.
    The point is, you always have to be one up, not down, but like they say the best weapon is the one you have with you when you need it and I keep my USB memory with Mint and ammo of utilities in my pocket all the time. If time comes for hawy artilery, there's a 2.5" 250GB HDD with the rest of stuff.
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  7. #117


    Quote Originally Posted by nonono View Post
    I'm not informed, i tried everything myself and i know it, i dont need to read some rumors to know anything, and the speed is not near at what i call usable. VM is used for situations, where you just cant use dual boot, so therefore you use windows as main os, you use some programs in windows, you use some vm program with linux in it - that requires a lot of ram, 8 gb minimum, because my 4gb ram gets full instantly and puff, plus you need at least core i7 to keep all these things running and not under "not responding". Also, ssd is quite a requirement to, as using simple hdd with vm is just a pain in the bottom. So, as you can see, you need to have quite a powerhorse, if you want to use all things comfortably, without cutting your veins during loong load times.
    I haven't WANTED to run a dual boot in years because of virtual machines. I'm with WHS on this one, vms for me run absolutely great. If you have never had the pleasure to work on a real physical server, you don't understand that they can take minutes to post, to test RAM, to initialize RAID controllers, to get even to the point where the OS boots. But with vms, it's mere seconds.

    I'm an IT guy by trade. I live and breathe in vms. I often have 3-5 vms running at all times. Domain controllers, exchange servers, system center, SQL server, various clients, and a bunch of Linux servers running BIND, FTP, and apache and tomcat.

    My desktop hosts are not powerhouses. 1 is a core 2duo with 8gb of ram, and a single 2tb spinner. My 2nd one is a core i7-3770 with 16 gb of ram and 4 x 7200rpm spinner drives. These machines give me great performance. Unless you are rendering video, trying to mix audio, rendering 3d cad applications, or playing video games like battlefield 4, vms should run quiet well.
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  8. #118


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Just stay away from the Redhat systems. With those you need advanced skills.
    Jeez, Red Hat systems aren't that bad O:-). I use CentOS, which is a clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, for our work servers. It's without a doubt my number 1 choice for a Linux server. But I don't usually use it as a desktop OS, I used to use Ubuntu until they went Unity and then I went to mint. For Me, my years of experience has been with Red Hat based distros, so all of my docs and notes over the years have been done in CentOS/RHEL. And I did earn an RHCE, so my credentials are in the Red Hat distros.
    Last edited by pparks1; 26 Apr 2014 at 21:04.
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  9. #119


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Well, no doubt you have advanced skills. And they are probably great systems for servers with which I never got involved. But as you said, for the desktop, Mint is a better choice.
    Last edited by whs; 26 Apr 2014 at 20:48.
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  10. #120


    Posts : 1
    windows 8 unfortunately


    As far as I'm concerned Microslop really screwed up with this bulls**t
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