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Microsoft loses money on each Surface sold

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    To get back on topic my eminent colleagues


    To get back on topic my eminent colleagues,

    The main reason for it's money loss is, that they had no stable distribution process. What the article also failed to mention was the amount of faulty items returned, I would be curious about those numbers.

    While this is an interesting little snapshot topic, the real question is, what will the returns be several years from now, after all the setup monies and massive marketing push, are no longer part of the equation. I await those numbers.

    This article reminds me of trash tabloid headline fodder, "Brad Pitt discovers Angelina Jolie is an alien, . an amusing read, but not much on substance.

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    this article is about the "RT" right? this is supposed to die anyway. What i like to know just the Pro numbers.

    I was hoping this website would clearly mark the headline that this is about the RT. It is bad enough that MS confused the general public, but here I would have expected some clarification.

    The "Pro 2" must do quite well since they are on backorder ( at least the version i ordered through my work, 2 months waiting so far for 8GB/256GB SSD). I mean if a product is sold out for 2 months are due to lack of production capacity, not lack of buyers.
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    $39 million loss is not bad actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by z31fanatic View Post
    $39 million loss is not bad actually.
    In what kind of business are you - Salvation Army ?
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    I don't know about everyone else but I have yet to see anybody with Surface tablet. For a product that is supposedly getting sold out and stuff, it's not doing anything to the iPad nor Android marketshare.

    I'm still waiting for a tablet that has the highest writing precision when it comes to taking notes. That way I can get rid of my subject notebooks but no OEM seems to be investing on that.

    As for Microsoft losing money of each Surface sold, that's good because that makes them think twice in making products.
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    I'm still waiting for a tablet that has the highest writing precision when it comes to taking notes
    What do you mean with 'the highest writing precision ' ? Layout or size of the keyboard ??
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  7. #17


    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMasterFX View Post
    As for Microsoft losing money of each Surface sold, that's good because that makes them think twice in making products.
    No way, Surfaces are great, but in order for joe public to buy them they NEED to be cheaper. Someone who's on the outside is more likely to just, say, pick up a samsung android tablet to 'go with' their samsung galaxy smartphone. Once they're on Surface with Win8.1, with all their files and SkyDrive integration, with regular MS Office they can fully appreciate them. But whilst they're too pricey, people won't even look at them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksdixon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMasterFX View Post
    As for Microsoft losing money of each Surface sold, that's good because that makes them think twice in making products.
    No way, Surfaces are great, but in order for joe public to buy them they NEED to be cheaper. Someone who's on the outside is more likely to just, say, pick up a samsung android tablet to 'go with' their samsung galaxy smartphone. Once they're on Surface with Win8.1, with all their files and SkyDrive integration, with regular MS Office they can fully appreciate them. But whilst they're too pricey, people won't even look at them.
    You are absolutely right - price rules.

    I was looking for a Surface type device for the wife for travel, and I bought this one for $329. (now it is $339) - still a lot cheaper than Surface and a great machine. I was not going to pay M$ prices.
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  9. #19


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    The first Gen Surface Pro's got a bit cheaper
    $600 is not really cheap for old iron - and that without office. My transformer was $330 with office included. It has a quad processor and a SSD - no pen though which is probably handy for some apps. Speed is no issue - it is comparable to my i5 laptop which also runs from a SSD.
    Not quite cheap enough, those Gen1 Surface Pros without the keyboard included. Remember that they have bad battery life etc, so when people are looking between Gen2 and Gen1, they are going to be pushed towards Gen2 for it's improvements if they can afford the extra cost at all. Here in the UK the Gen1 tablet alone is milling around £500-£700, and the Gen2 is £700-£1,000.

    I'd reluctantly bite on a Gen1 if it was around £400 for the tablet + keyboard, reluctantly because I know I'd be buying flawed hardware in comparison to Gen2, but there's just no way I can afford a Gen2.


    whs, some questions if you don't mind my asking:
    WinRT or Full Windows?

    Does it include a regular USB port? If so is it USB2 or USB3?

    Does it include a HDMI or Mini Display Port for showing the tablet on a HDTV?

    How is gaming performance? Can you play regular 'AAA' type games on the default 'normal' settings?

    How is it for online video/streaming (YouTube, Netflix, Twitch) in terms of watching flawlessly and not stuttering/buffering/crashing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I'm still waiting for a tablet that has the highest writing precision when it comes to taking notes
    What do you mean with 'the highest writing precision ' ? Layout or size of the keyboard ??
    As in writing with some sort of stylus pen or whatever on the display. So far writing on a tablet is still messy. But I want the words to look exactly as if they were written on a piece of paper. That would make my life so much easier especially when doing manual mathematical calculations.

    Maybe this technology isn't there yet but that would be the best thing for me on a tablet. I mean how are you suppose to type math formulas with a touch keyboard?
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