Here Are 24 Countries Where Windows Phone Outsells...

SIW2 · Jan 23, 2014

DustSailor · Jan 23, 2014

SIW2 said:
Nokia Lumia 520 review - Quite lovely

I just bought and use that phone haha.

The no flash is somewhat of an annoyance, but otherwise, it has been perfect for my simple needs. I got a kick out of telling a guy who bought a windows 7.5 phone recently for a discount at 70USD, while my Win8 phone was 50USD.

Coke Robot · Jan 23, 2014

I was seriously considering buying the Lumia 521 from T-Mobile as there was a deal where it ended up costing only $30 US after a mail in rebate. I wanted it just because it was that fine of a deal!

Surprising that Windows Phone hasn't been considered a flop even though it's growth and size isn't as huge as Windows 8.1.

labeeman · Jan 23, 2014

Coke Robot said:
I was seriously considering buying the Lumia 521 from T-Mobile as there was a deal where it ended up costing only $30 US after a mail in rebate. I wanted it just because it was that fine of a deal!

Surprising that Windows Phone hasn't been considered a flop even though it's growth and size isn't as huge as Windows 8.1.

Nokia's Lumia smartphone sales tank -- can Windows Phone survive it? | Computerworld Blogs

Coke Robot · Jan 23, 2014

labeeman said:
Coke Robot said:

I was seriously considering buying the Lumia 521 from T-Mobile as there was a deal where it ended up costing only $30 US after a mail in rebate. I wanted it just because it was that fine of a deal!

Surprising that Windows Phone hasn't been considered a flop even though it's growth and size isn't as huge as Windows 8.1.

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Nokia's Lumia smartphone sales tank -- can Windows Phone survive it? | Computerworld Blogs

Such a pessimistic view!

Honestly, in the US, Windows Phone has done so poorly, but I'm not too surprised. It basically comes down to the fact that yet AGAIN, Microsoft, nor att, nor verizon, nor T-Mobile have been marketing Windows Phone at all just like how it was with 7. There were some initial ad campaigns for Windows Phone but it's all but diminished. They're just not effectively showing why Windows Phone is better. This right here pisses me off to no extent, they have a great product, but can't show why or how or do it in such a way that the message comes across. If I were to work at Microsoft, it would be marketing Windows Phone!

Also not too surprising is how the platform is doing decently well in Europe, and again, emerging markets. The problem I saw right off the bat was the top-down approach of shooting for high end hardware with the 920. What Microsoft will be doing with 8.1 is correct with tweaking the UI and hardware requirements to allow OEMs to swap low and high end android handsets to Windows Phone real easily if they drop the licensing fees for it. The top-UP approach and target volume is the best way to go here. The US market is negligible compared to Europe, Asia, India, Brazil, Africa, the moon, and other markets. From looking at Nokia's sales, a LOT of it was from their lower end Asha hardware. That's where the cue should have been taken from to begin with.

But hopefully, Microsoft doesn't screw up Nokia's hardware division and continue the legacy of awesome and colorful and innovative hardware.

Still kind of regret not buying that 521... The ability to have almost 70 gigs of total storage with that SD card was such an awesome prospect...

geeve420 · Jan 24, 2014

I gave up on my Lumia 920, gave it to my mother in law and used her upgrade to get a note 2.

It was a fast device and didn't crash........However there was no VPN, No Team viewer, No Square register, No good youtube, no nook app, etc..... Not to mention the broken factory reset. I literally had to exchange my phone 3 time because of a bad OTA. These were frustrating to me and killed my whole love for it.

The ecosystem and apps are just awful and nonexistent.

Geeve

Rickkins · Jan 24, 2014

To be fair, they are starting out late in the game, going up against two very successful and entrenched entities in Apple & Android. It's gonna take some time for them to catch up. I've never used a windows phone, but I'm sure it is as viable as the others.

jladwig · Jan 24, 2014

DustSailor said:
SIW2 said:

Nokia Lumia 520 review - Quite lovely

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I just bought and use that phone haha.

The no flash is somewhat of an annoyance, but otherwise, it has been perfect for my simple needs. I got a kick out of telling a guy who bought a windows 7.5 phone recently for a discount at 70USD, while my Win8 phone was 50USD.

Just got my wife that phone and also a 64g flash drive so I know it does take a flash drive. Flash drive for Nokia 520 - Amazon.com: Zectron UHS-1 64GB SDXC Micro Class 10 Memory Card for Nokia Lumia 520: Computers & Accessories

Coke Robot · Jan 24, 2014

geeve420 said:
I gave up on my Lumia 920, gave it to my mother in law and used her upgrade to get a note 2.

It was a fast device and didn't crash........However there was no VPN, No Team viewer, No Square register, No good youtube, no nook app, etc..... Not to mention the broken factory reset. I literally had to exchange my phone 3 time because of a bad OTA. These were frustrating to me and killed my whole love for it.

The ecosystem and apps are just awful and nonexistent.

Geeve

TeamViewer exists, a Square alternative exists on both Windows Phone and PC called Innerfence, MetroTube is the best youtube app out there (don't count on google for that one..), for some reason Nook isn't there but on Windows 8.1... Weird.

I've had to reinstall the ROM on my 920 when I did a reset last year, it was kind of a pain but not terribly difficult. The fact that the in-system reset feature doesn't work as well as on Windows.

Windows Phone 8.1 will in fact have VPN support. When Update 1 and 8.1 release, the WinRT code between the two platforms will be like 77% similar which is fantastic. Problem is of course, they were lateish to the game, but they're really catching up. 2013 was such a great year for Windows Phone, the only REAL problem left is marketing...

XweAponX · Jan 24, 2014

They probably gave Huge Incentives to those countries, to the carriers. But Apple is actually hitting a new High, finally edged out Samgung- the 64-bit 5S was a good decision, and many people were actually waiting for the Jailbreak to be released before buying, I wonder if when they check the stats fort sales from December, how many 5S's were sold since December 24th? People don't believe me, that Apple Sales soar when there is a viable Jailbreak. It happened for 4.3.3, for 5.0.1 and 5.1.1, for 6.1 through 6.1.2, and it's happening now for iOS 7.0 through 7.0.4- eVasi0n slammed in at least 3 iOS versions in one swell foop - and iHatesn0w delievered an update for 6.1.3 through 6.1.5, so at this point, ALL iOS is pwned.

I'm wondering if these Windows 8 phones, are they 32 or 64? With 64 bit wpOS's, they could give iOS 7 a money-run.

As much as I love iOS, I would love to get my hands on a Windows 8 device. I took a plunge and bought a cheap Droidevice early December - But I lucked out with a tail end Black Friday sale and got a 200 buck device for 60. I think next Year, I'll aim for getting a Cheap Windows 8 device - IF they are cheap. Because now, I have my hands full of iOS and Droid, I need to get Windows Device OS into my hands.

Coke Robot · Jan 24, 2014

XweAponX said:
They probably gave Huge Incentives to those countries, to the carriers. But Apple is actually hitting a new High, finally edged out Samgung- the 64-bit 5S was a good decision, and many people were actually waiting for the Jailbreak to be released before buying, I wonder if when they check the stats fort sales from December, how many 5S's were sold since December 24th? People don't believe me, that Apple Sales soar when there is a viable Jailbreak. It happened for 4.3.3, for 5.0.1 and 5.1.1, for 6.1 through 6.1.2, and it's happening now for iOS 7.0 through 7.0.4- eVasi0n slammed in at least 3 iOS versions in one swell foop - and iHatesn0w delievered an update for 6.1.3 through 6.1.5, so at this point, ALL iOS is pwned.

I'm wondering if these Windows 8 phones, are they 32 or 64? With 64 bit wpOS's, they could give iOS 7 a money-run.

As much as I love iOS, I would love to get my hands on a Windows 8 device. I took a plunge and bought a cheap Droidevice early December - But I lucked out with a tail end Black Friday sale and got a 200 buck device for 60. I think next Year, I'll aim for getting a Cheap Windows 8 device - IF they are cheap. Because now, I have my hands full of iOS and Droid, I need to get Windows Device OS into my hands.

I read a while back that one of Russia's largest carrier dropped support for the iphone because it actually costs THEM money just to sell it. Windows Phone nor android have such a thing where royalties get paid to the respective companies from carriers to just sell them.

Windows Phone 8 I'd imagine is a 32 bit based system, otherwise we'd have all known by now and apple wouldn't have been first to do such. Windows RT is a 32 bit RISC based platform, Windows Phone would be just the same.

Seriously, I kid you not, if you keep a lookout you'll probably find the Nokia Lumia 521 on sale again for about 30-50 dollars. It runs usually 80-100. It's a pretty neat doohickey, it has a super sensitive touch screen and the ability to have about 70 gigs of on board storage!

Mustang · Jan 25, 2014

Certainly not the case in West Aussie. I had to wait over two months to get my hands on an unlocked Apple iPhone IOS7 5s, and that's at a cost of $1,000 Aussie $$$. The price is outrageous but if you want Apple that's what you pay ... and there's no shortage of buyers. In fact stocks were pre-ordered 2 months ahead when I first got serious about buying one.

Main reason I bought it? My son's got one and it's got it all, from fingerprint ID to face to face calls. And a 64bit OS. In fact there are so many features it's almost too much.

Other reasons include quality of product, and more importantly, back-up tech support. There are two Apple stores close by and you can just walk in the door and talk to a consultant. Or book an appointment; or phone the store and option 2 puts you through to Australia wide support.

The final reason was to investigate Mac OS first hand.

Coke Robot · Jan 25, 2014

I was just reading about Windows Mobile and wow, the idea that Microsoft came late to "the game" is kind of a fallacy. It's more like they made the game, but got out innovated. It's also very fascinating how the UI designs from Mobile to Phone are basically one in the same. On Windows Mobile, it was essentially taking the Desktop start menu, adding information and relevant data to it, and put it on a phone screen. This is basically the Start Screen in Windows Phone.

Very weird to read about really elder smartphones and the reviews. It's strange because nowadays, the very first few things covered is the processor and screen. Back then, it was mostly the keyboard, the screen, storage and camera but with a HEAVY emphasis on the software side.

It really makes you wonder what would have happened if apple didn't make an iphone (was considered a "dumb" phone compared to Windows Mobile) as Microsoft was building Mobile to be LITERALLY like a baby PC in your pocket versus something that has made people be so socially awkward.... :\

whs · Jan 25, 2014

My guess would be that Windows phones sell so well because Nokia was so dominant in those countries when they were still selling their Symbian phones. There Windows phones are now a 'natural' migration path. It was a smart MS move to get involved with Nokia.

EMINENT · Jan 25, 2014

On another forum, actually converted a once hardcore Android/Nexus phone user to WP in a Lumia 1520. He actually chose it to replace his Nexus 5 and surprisingly can't say enough good things about the platform. Introduced him to the convenience of Skydrive too.

Mustang · Jan 26, 2014

One thing I intensely dislike about iPhone is Apple controlling everything. When it's connected to your PC via USB cable, you can't drag/drop pictures or songs directly into it. It has to be synced to iCloud or iTunes. And when you sync songs it auto deletes what you've already got and reloads what's in iTunes. However you can drag photos from it to PC desktop. And to replace the battery you have to get them to do it at a price of $100 or buy a battery and kit; and even then it's not simply slide out/in.

It's definitely not as user friendly as my previous Sony Xperia Android.

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