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What problem does Windows 8 solve?

  1. #31


    California
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    Windows 7 Home Premium S 64 bit


    I think a better name would be Rain X.
    Once you install it you will have to wipe your hard drive and do a clean install of 7 again.

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  2. #32


    Posts : 1,308
    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    What is Windows 8 ? For me they simply graft the metro interface over Windows 7, or is it something else that I’m missing?
    From what I see, Windows don’t have the big share of the market in the phone and tablet industry. If they bring their phone OS to the PC, peoples will get used to it. So next time they purchase a phone or a tablet, they gone look at MS first because they are used to it.
    I own a small shop and service mainly Small Business , when I sell a new pc, it come with 7, this is not a big problem for them, but when it’s time to change from Office 2003 to office 2010, it’s a different story, secretary hate it, nothing is like before. Peoples who work in office, generaly don’t like changes, they don’t like to have to learn new thing, they have enough work without it. I don’t see how MS will sell Windows 8 to those peoples.
    Sorry for my English.
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  3. #33


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    What is Windows 8 ? For me they simply graft the metro interface over Windows 7, or is it something else that I’m missing?
    From what I see, Windows don’t have the big share of the market in the phone and tablet industry. If they bring their phone OS to the PC, peoples will get used to it. So next time they purchase a phone or a tablet, they gone look at MS first because they are used to it.
    I own a small shop and service mainly Small Business , when I sell a new pc, it come with 7, this is not a big problem for them, but when it’s time to change from Office 2003 to office 2010, it’s a different story, secretary hate it, nothing is like before. Peoples who work in office, generaly don’t like changes, they don’t like to have to learn new thing, they have enough work without it. I don’t see how MS will sell Windows 8 to those peoples.
    Sorry for my English.
    I think the main development effort went into the support of ARM processors. But that we do not see on the PCs.
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  4. #34


    Posts : 993
    Windows 8 pro Retail


    PaulGo said:
    Unless Microsoft offers this at a really cheap price I see no reason to upgrade from Windows 7 since I really don't like the Metro interface on a PC.
    Well it is like this Paul, THIS is the new interface (Metro) and it will remain that. If you upgrade it or not. My problem with it is..
    I can't get to the "properties sheet" of thee metro tiles. BUT it will be figured out by someone, so that we can edit the designs of the Metro tiles.
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  5. #35


    Posts : 48
    Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


    I will tell what win8 solves for some of us. I may actually enter the mobile world once this OS is in full swing simply because of it. I had up till now completely avoided mobile because I don't want to bother with any of the current mobile OS platforms. They suck I don't care what anyone else thinks that is how i feel about them. I have other reasons I dislike mobile but that is at least half my gripe right there.

    What windows 8 solves for me is the gap between a desktop and other devices. I want things to be the same as they are on my desktop and why wouldn't I really. I am after all the most familiar and skilled with the desktop environment. Anything else is going to be a completely new and time wasting learning experience for me. So to be able to pick up any and every device that supports 8 and know how to use it and be good at using it without any learning involved and without any significant change to how I use it well that is just miraculous really.

    It also solves a lot of problems for specific groups like multimedia designers such as myself. Most of the tools used for design benefit the most from touch input. Photoshop is the best example. You would ideally want a touch input to draw on screen. Since windows will also interface perfectly with touch input after this you now can move fluidly from something like photoshop right into the OS without even noticing any difference. This is a huge step forward for productivity in that sense.

    Because the most popular OS will now support touch expect the price on touch hardware for a pc to plummet and become affordable. Touch is going to become a standard feature in your PC monitor after this. I would expect display manufacturers to jump all over the whole thing and start making it a standard feature and refining it specifically for pc displays.

    Until now who had a touch monitor for PC? The only instances I can think of are those crappy touch PC deals they sell in stores that almost no one buys and the input devices a designer would be using which cost a lot of money and only a designer would really need or want which they don't exactly classify as a display.

    There are many many advantages over previous versions of windows. Advantages taken for granted considering the reliability of win7 and familiarity of it. So many people are quick to dismiss the idea of 8 given that fact. They refuse to move on saying things like why would I upgrade when they finally have a solid stable OS that I like out.

    It's time to put away the reliability card because that almost doesn't factor in anymore. The OS is going to be stable from this point forward so people should stop trying to compare today's OS with the experience they had 10 or 15 years ago with windows. I don't expect 8 to be "the next vista" from what I can tell it is nothing more than 7 with a redesign that is a step towards standardizing how we interact with all devices be it mobile gaming or desktop and that is a huge step forward in general.
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  6. #36



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    NJ
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    4 Windows 7 Pro Sp1- 4 Win 8 Pro, 1- xp pro sp3


    I also do not like this version for the office environment Businesses like to do things fast. And like the idea of having shortcuts to My documents and outlook among other files on their desktop including programs that they use all the time. Not have to muddle though a bunch of "play large apps" it is not productive. Unless Microsoft allows u when you click on the desktop app to put it like windows7 looks now. So far I do not see this and in the tutrorial that brink gives us. Yes you can create a shortcut but every time you need to add to it you need to redo it. I do not see the average user do this or the business user do this. I do see the young adult community love windows 8. With their using smart phones and tablets since it will integrate but if one wants a play computer why not just get a tablet instead.
    It will be a very hard sale for dell whose main focus is selling to the business world and myself who sells to small business. My consumer clients will love this new OS but again unless in the
    Final version Microsoft gives something to help out businesses. I do not see this Os taking off
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  7. #37


    Adelaide
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    It's like swapping to Linux (or worse DOS).


    Quote Originally Posted by Corpsecrank View Post
    So to be able to pick up any and every device that supports 8 and know how to use it and be good at using it without any learning involved and without any significant change to how I use it well that is just miraculous really.
    That's OK for new users.

    It's a nightmare for experienced users.
    It is almost impossible to find anything now.
    If you don't know the exact name of a specific tool, it doesn't appear in the search results.

    It's like swapping to Linux (or worse DOS).

    Quote Originally Posted by Corpsecrank View Post
    It also solves a lot of problems for specific groups like multimedia designers such as myself. Most of the tools used for design benefit the most from touch input. Photoshop is the best example. You would ideally want a touch input to draw on screen.
    That's what graphics tablets are for.
    How many "great works of art" were created by finger painting?
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  8. #38



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    4 Windows 7 Pro Sp1- 4 Win 8 Pro, 1- xp pro sp3


    Also Microsoft does not make their money from the consumer. They make it from the small to the large businesses the consumer will purchase maybe 1 machine or 2 and will put the "home premium" version which costs less money. The business will purchase from 3 all the way up to in the thousands depending how large the company is and they are the ones that do more of the upgrading. But they do it slower. So I would have thought Microsoft would make this OS more user friendly for the business user not taking out but adding to the desktop app like I said in my prior post to allow them the choice to make it look like 7. Businesses do not like change and like the person who said office 2003 to 2010 is a major change and I know business users do not like the change because one of the things I do is teach 2010 to businesses they gripe all the time they hate all those ribbons. Now go and completely change over an OS is going to result in businesses taking a very long time to move over to the new 0S. I have clients still on xp wh have not moved to windows 7 and the change is not as drastic as this new OS is. Unless the new OS has some of the things I talked about here. I cannot see them upgrading even from 7 for a very long time if Microsoft learns its lesson and fixes it in windows 9
    Robin
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  9. #39


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    Quote Originally Posted by Corpsecrank View Post
    Until now who had a touch monitor for PC? The only instances I can think of are those crappy touch PC deals they sell in stores that almost no one buys and the input devices a designer would be using which cost a lot of money and only a designer would really need or want which they don't exactly classify as a display.
    Have you ever used a touch monitor exclusively? If you like reaching over your desk and banging away on hard glass 24/7, then touch is awesome. Most people don't like doing that stuff all day long, which is why you haven't seen a touch screen explosion. When 7 came out I heard this talk. Hasn't happened, has it? It won't happen until someone can develop a screen that at least = a mouse and current keyboard setup. I'm sure in the coming centuries that will happen. Not during 8, which is just an operating system change. It's not a computer lifestyle change.
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  10. #40


    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    , but when it’s time to change from Office 2003 to office 2010, it’s a different story, secretary hate it, nothing is like before. Peoples who work in office, generaly don’t like changes, they don’t like to have to learn new thing, they have enough work without it.
    Why change? I'm still using Office 2000 because I did not want to lay out the cash for a new word processor. It works fine. Unless, my buddy who installed Win 8 is right in that none of his old applications will run under Win 8. I guess that is one way to get people to buy new versions of Office.
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