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What problem does Windows 8 solve?

  1. #91


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    It is optional at the moment.

    Making it compulsory now would be too big a step.

    When the average user buys a tablet/whatever- it won't cross their minds to say no.

    They will get a microsoft account, do the apps thing , sync their devices, etc.

    It won't be too long before the majority have been ensnared.

    Then it will then be expected/necessary/compulsory to go into the clouds to do anything.

    Because almost everyone will have been drawn in without realising - those who don't want to go there will be stuck.

    It will be uneconomic to manufacture machines and write software for the few who haven't been suckered in.

    MS have been busy filing patents about charging methods for cloud usage.

    They want a future where you go online for everything - all you have is a device to connect to it.

    It is not just MS of course.

    There are billions to be made.

    Quote Originally Posted by stefalopod View Post
    I get that Win8 is very cloud enabled, but you really don't have to use any of those features -- you can use everything locally on your machine (and it will still run faster/lighter than win7). Can anyone explain in small words and complete sentences why having cloud operation built in = d$$ms day when using the cloud is optional and not even necessarily useful for a lot of users?

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  2. #92


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    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    It is optional at the moment.

    Making it compulsory now would be too big a step.

    When the average user buys a tablet/whatever- it won't cross their minds to say no.

    They will get a microsoft account, do the apps thing , sync their devices, etc.

    It won't be too long before the majority have been ensnared.

    Then it will then be expected/necessary/compulsory to go into the clouds to do anything.

    Because almost everyone will have been drawn in without realising - those who don't want to go there will be stuck.

    It will be uneconomic to manufacture machines and write software for the few who haven't been suckered in.

    MS have been busy filing patents about charging methods for cloud usage.

    They want a future where you go online for everything - all you have is a device to connect to it.

    It is not just MS of course.

    There are billions to be made.

    Quote Originally Posted by stefalopod View Post
    I get that Win8 is very cloud enabled, but you really don't have to use any of those features -- you can use everything locally on your machine (and it will still run faster/lighter than win7). Can anyone explain in small words and complete sentences why having cloud operation built in = d$$ms day when using the cloud is optional and not even necessarily useful for a lot of users?
    When this happens, I will be in the cloud myself. So do I care ?? - LOL
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  3. #93


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I guess that actually happened to a lot of mechanics in the US when manufacturers were changing to metric.
    Not really because the wrenches still worked the same way.
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  4. #94


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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    It is optional at the moment.

    Making it compulsory now would be too big a step.

    When the average user buys a tablet/whatever- it won't cross their minds to say no.

    They will get a microsoft account, do the apps thing , sync their devices, etc.

    It won't be too long before the majority have been ensnared.

    Then it will then be expected/necessary/compulsory to go into the clouds to do anything.

    Because almost everyone will have been drawn in without realising - those who don't want to go there will be stuck.

    It will be uneconomic to manufacture machines and write software for the few who haven't been suckered in.

    MS have been busy filing patents about charging methods for cloud usage.

    They want a future where you go online for everything - all you have is a device to connect to it.

    It is not just MS of course.

    There are billions to be made.

    there nothing really new here, Microsoft is just copying slowly the idea of Chrome OS; "remove the OS and just use a browser"

    have a look at the future

    What is Google Chrome OS? - YouTube
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  5. #95


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    @area66

    No, it is not new. It is only obvious to a few of us, it seems.

    I was just answering the question from Stefalopod, he asked this:

    Can anyone explain in small words and complete sentences why having cloud operation built in = d$$ms day when using the cloud is optional and not even necessarily useful for a lot of users?
    Most people do not know about it.


    @whs - LOL - well you will looking down from there watching it all happening.
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  6. #96


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    8250 x86 + 7 SP1 x86 + Ubuntu 12.04 LTS x86


    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    there nothing really new here, Microsoft is just copying slowly the idea of Chrome OS; "remove the OS and just use a browser"

    have a look at the future

    What is Google Chrome OS? - YouTube

    Wow, way to turn a powerful pc into a smartphone. lol

    A smartphone with Google advertising, tracking and lots of other things not to be trusted.
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  7. #97


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    Yes at some stage there will really only be smartphones or something even smaller - I think I saw someone call them stupidphones.
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  8. #98


    Posts : 1,308
    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    @area66

    No, it is not new. It is only obvious to a few of us, it seems.
    .
    I'm very happy to not be the only one to see it coming. What make me sad is of course I like the portability the cloud bring, it'S really useful, but I like to much build computers, and what about games ? I'm not a big gamer but I like to play BF3 time to time, and I can't use a Xbox control, I'm too old to learn it, so I need a keyboard and a mouse, gaming on a Xbox is simply not the same at all. I don't think the PC will disappear, but if Microsoft make peoples gaming less on PC, you will have less and less PC games. And PCs will cost more and more as they gone be fewer of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Yes at some stage there will really only be smartphones or something even smaller - I think I saw someone call them stupidphones.


    I really don't like to use a smartphone as a phone, it's too big too fragile, I think I'm gone return to a simple phone. Since I repair computer I always have a computer around even at customers place to check my emails. I don't need a phone to do so.
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  9. #99


    Call me goofy but I don't like the idea of having all of my information floating out in some cloud. I also don't like the idea of being dependent on applications that come from the internet. I like the idea of my stuff being on my computer and still being able to use my computer if disconnected from the internet.

    No internet? I can still write letters, balance my checkbook, edit photos and even compose emails to send later. All of my stuff stays on my computer.

    With all of the concerns about hacking and cracking and identity theft why does anyone want more than is absolutely necessary floating around in Etherspace?
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  10. #100


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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    Quote Originally Posted by BarnabasSackett View Post
    Call me goofy but I don't like the idea of having all of my information floating out in some cloud. I also don't like the idea of being dependent on applications that come from the internet. I like the idea of my stuff being on my computer and still being able to use my computer if disconnected from the internet.

    No internet? I can still write letters, balance my checkbook, edit photos and even compose emails to send later. All of my stuff stays on my computer.

    With all of the concerns about hacking and cracking and identity theft why does anyone want more than is absolutely necessary floating around in Etherspace?

    I agree with you at 110%, I like to keep my stuff on my PC, but I have few thing I like to be accessible from anywhere, like a servicing contract as example; the master is on Google apps and I just edit it and print it from a customers PC when I want them to sign something. I don't place anything personal or customers info on Google, just blank stuff, useless if someone get hand on them. Was not last year that Microsoft delete by accident quite few Hotmail accounts, and peoples lost everything ?
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