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  1. #21


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    They are finally getting smart and sell what people want. Nothing wrong with 8 and 8.1, but those versions did certainly not win the popularity contest. A company liks HP has to produce what sells and not what some MS strategists have dreamt up. I applaud HP - back to reality and an end to confusion.

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  2. #22


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    There should have always been a choice between the ultimate realization of all of MS's work to date creating the perfect Desktop Experience in Windows 7 , and a new phone or touchscreen OS like Windows 8. That there wasn't is the greatest product launch disaster since New Coke, except that Coca Cola corrected it immediately and didn't insist on pushing forward with an Apple business plan that doesn't work at all. If you don't see the connection between this and not being able to find a new CEO with Bill Gates heading the Search Committee, you've not been paying attention.

    Just read the PC reviews on Best Buy which are nearly unanimous in outrage and confusion over Windows 8. I can't imagine it being a worse disaster if they replaced the best OS ever with a Playskool interface and then tried to hide copies of the only successful OS! Oh, wait....that's exactly what they've done!

    I was receiving the MS IT Pro newsletter Springboard monthly for several years during which they tried to scare business into Windows 8 Secure Boot by threatening BIOS infections which we strangely never see at Seven Forums. Business responded by going nearly lockstep from XP into Win7, which kinda flummoxes the plan to smother Win7 in its crib.

    I wondered why at Global MVP Summits when I'd mention to MS execs what a resounding success Win7 is that they'd have this blank expression. Only at the most recent one did they ask top forums producers to a Focus Group where our opinion was sought and given bluntly. But it seems it's too late, and those decisions are made at much higher levels. Maybe they'll find a CEO with fresh unblindered eyes.

    Until then the advocacy for the best OS ever and one of the greatest achievements in tech history defaults to its home since Beta, Seven Forums. We're still awaiting a SP2, perhaps with some of the few actual Eight improvements, which could also I suppose be called Windows 9. A billion customers earned with a perfect desktop experience deserve no less.
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  3. #23


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    ^^^ Excellent.
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  4. #24


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    Quote Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
    There should have always been a choice between the ultimate realization of all of MS's work to date creating the perfect Desktop Experience in Windows 7 , and a new phone or touchscreen OS like Windows 8. That there wasn't is the greatest product launch disaster since New Coke, except that Coca Cola corrected it immediately and didn't insist on pushing forward with an Apple business plan that doesn't work at all. If you don't see the connection between this and not being able to find a new CEO with Bill Gates heading the Search Committee, you've not been paying attention.

    Just read the PC reviews on Best Buy which are nearly unanimous in outrage and confusion over Windows 8. I can't imagine it being a worse disaster if they replaced the best OS ever with a Playskool interface and then tried to hide copies of the only successful OS! Oh, wait....that's exactly what they've done!

    I was receiving the MS IT Pro newsletter Springboard monthly for several years during which they tried to scare business into Windows 8 Secure Boot by threatening BIOS infections which we strangely never see at Seven Forums. Business responded by going nearly lockstep from XP into Win7, which kinda flummoxes the plan to smother Win7 in its crib.

    I wondered why at Global MVP Summits when I'd mention to MS execs what a resounding success Win7 is that they'd have this blank expression. Only at the most recent one did they ask top forums producers to a Focus Group where our opinion was sought and given bluntly. But it seems it's too late, and those decisions are made at much higher levels. Maybe they'll find a CEO with fresh unblindered eyes.

    Until then the advocacy for the best OS ever and one of the greatest achievements in tech history defaults to its home since Beta, Seven Forums. We're still awaiting a SP2, perhaps with some of the few actual Eight improvements, which could also I suppose be called Windows 9. A billion customers earned with a perfect desktop experience deserve no less.
    We need a "like" button...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post

    We need a "like" button...
    Agreed
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  6. #26


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    Greg, thanks for such a good summary that expresses the opinions of many of us - not all though.
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  7. #27


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    ~snip and I've had enough experience with them to know ~snip

    And there it is. You've had enough experience to know. Perfect.

    Will you now accept that others too have had enough experience "to know", and do not need to have your demeaning comments directed towards them simply because they reject your beloved metro based on their own "enough experience"...???
    I don't know what you're trying to make me say, I just don't like HP altogether. I could give a flying cat's crap less about if they do a Windows 7 promo because it's still a sale of Windows either way. I don't like their PC designs, their cooling designs, nor their printers. Ever since they started to design their pavilions and AIO PCs like mac clones, I lost all respect I had for them. If you can't innovate without copying someone, to me, you are useless and add nothing to the mix.

    You're confused.
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  8. #28


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    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    There's still "popular" demand for HP? Poor cooling designs, MacBook clones, printers that collapse and die from just being looked at, and the overall lack of genuine innovation? Ok...

    Instead, they should take a page out of Lenovo's book. You don't see them pulling this sort of thing.

    Anyways, I was reading around and the reason why HP's doing this is to basically give Microsoft the middle finger because Microsoft isn't being too keen on them as of late with their chromebook launch.

    Out of the few dozen installs I've done with Windows 8/8.1 and being able to convince people, WITH LOGIC, why and how Windows 8.1 is better than 7 (of course customizing parts of the UI so it isn't too scary); I don't get it.
    I agree hp sucks in my opinion, every hp computer/ laptop i have worked on in the past 10 yrs had a problem, mostly hardware, hd failure, cd burners break, mother board failure, and add for laptops keys pop out of keyboards, touch mouse gets stuck, monitor dies, I will not sell or advise a hp printer, either the printer jams up after a month or the softwares screws up the 0S.

    I can see why they would want to go back to windows 7, they cannot get anything to work right with windows 8.

    10 yrs ago hp was pretty good in printers only, only they decided to go pc more and messed up printers and the pc
    Seriously.

    It's always been laptops for me that overheat due to poor cooling solutions and the utter lack of access to clean out the heatsink. If you want to do that, you have to disassemble the WHOLE laptop, few dozen screws and all, JUST to clean out the heatsink!

    I stopped recommending HP about four years ago because of issues with their laptops have been passed on to new generations of laptops that are built literally to overheat and fail. That, and they've been designing their PCs recently like they're macbooks or something. A friend of mine recently bought an HP Split X2 (they need to update their drivers for Windows 8.1 too) in part because it looks like a mac.

    For me, it's ASUS all the way.
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  9. #29


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    It's always been laptops for me that overheat due to poor cooling solutions and the utter lack of access to clean out the heatsink. If you want to do that, you have to disassemble the WHOLE laptop, few dozen screws and all, JUST to clean out the heatsink!
    So, HP does not make\have never made models like, for example, this one? > Review HP ProBook 6570b (B6P88EA) Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews Quote: "The large maintenance panel can be opened without tools" "The cooling system is entirely accessible".
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  10. #30


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    Over the Xmas I bought a new HP m7j020dx (64 bit) with Windows 8. My previous experience was with XP and then Windows 7, with the latter working best for me. I later upgraded to $Win 8.1 Pro on this latest laptop. Trying to work with it but I am really not "charmed" with this OS or the bloatware from HP. The desktop option works ok and touchscreen on a laptop is absolutely useless for me. If I thought I could get all the drivers for Windows 7 x64 then I would change and even buy a new Win 7 OS..I may yet talk to HP about Win 7 but don't have great expectations on that score....

    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoMage View Post
    As a working PC Tech, I can certainly relate to that, with a resounding "Hurah!" and maybe even a "Yikes!".

    I can certainly relate to anyone who doesn't like the look or feel of Windows 8.
    I've had to set up several PC's now, with Windows 8 on them and without the "Classic Shell", the new owners
    would be completely lost.

    Having Windows 8 on my own laptop for several months, I've wiped the drive and reloaded Windows 7.
    Incompatibilities in Windows 8 were most of the problem. Windows 7 seems to just run everything.

    I wonder how many other PC makers will follow HP's lead. ???

    Nice post!
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