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Windows 8 Killed the PC, Says Analyst

  1. #11


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    I don't subscribe to the view that desktop pc's are on the way out. Thing is, most homes now have a pc... many in addition to other devices. And at this point, given the relative power of the average computer, people just are not replacing them, as there is no point.

    But, they are still being used on a regular basis. That part remains stable. For the most part, if you have a pc at home, you're gonna use it, for all the obvious reasons. And most people have a pc.

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  2. #12


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    Why would you need a desktop if a laptop or even a tablet does just the same?
    If you have very poor vision and you need at least a 22 or 24" screen. Also if you need a lot of CPU power to encode videos or if you need the CPU powere for 3D design.

    I own 4 laptops because the wife likes them. But I myself are much more comfy with one of my desktops. Even on an i7 laptop, video work takes a lot longer than on an i7 desktop. The i7s are not the same.

    And forget a tablet for any serious piece of work. They would just die under the load or not finish the job in my lifetime. Make the test. Take a 1 hour video and convert it from .mov or .mp4 to .wmv on a tablet.
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  3. #13


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    I don't like how the term "PC" corresponds to a desktop.

    Your Personal Computer could be a laptop. Your Personal Computer could be a tablet. Your Personal Computer could even be a smartphone.

    It's and shouldn't be just one form factor decades old.
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I don't like how the term "PC" corresponds to a desktop.

    Your Personal Computer could be a laptop. Your Personal Computer could be a tablet. Your Personal Computer could even be a smartphone.

    It's and shouldn't be just one form factor decades old.
    It depends what you mean with 'computing'. I don't think you want to use a smartphone to run a payroll program for 10.000 employees or run an accounts receivable. Nor would you run any CPU intensive tasks on a smartphone or tablet. I would also hate to edit pictures with Gimp on a 4" screen.

    But if you think 'computing' is emails and facebook, then you can use all devices.
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  5. #15


    Historically, a PC is a computer that does not take whole room and does not need a crew to operate. Hence "Personal Computer", at the beginning it meant just a good part or whole desktop, so, desktop computer. Similar thing with "Lap"top which is not very advisable because of the heat and there goes another misnomer.
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  6. #16


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I don't like how the term "PC" corresponds to a desktop.

    Your Personal Computer could be a laptop. Your Personal Computer could be a tablet. Your Personal Computer could even be a smartphone.

    It's and shouldn't be just one form factor decades old.
    It depends what you mean with 'computing'. I don't think you want to use a smartphone to run a payroll program for 10.000 employees or run an accounts receivable. Nor would you run any CPU intensive tasks on a smartphone or tablet. I would also hate to edit pictures with Gimp on a 4" screen.

    But if you think 'computing' is emails and facebook, then you can use all devices.
    Computing is whatever YOU personally do the most. If it's facebook and emails, ok. If it's payroll software, fantastic. If it's Dreamweaver and cryptocurrency mining, awesome.
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  7. #17


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I don't like how the term "PC" corresponds to a desktop.

    Your Personal Computer could be a laptop. Your Personal Computer could be a tablet. Your Personal Computer could even be a smartphone.

    It's and shouldn't be just one form factor decades old.
    It depends what you mean with 'computing'. I don't think you want to use a smartphone to run a payroll program for 10.000 employees or run an accounts receivable. Nor would you run any CPU intensive tasks on a smartphone or tablet. I would also hate to edit pictures with Gimp on a 4" screen.

    But if you think 'computing' is emails and facebook, then you can use all devices.
    Computing is whatever YOU personally do the most. If it's facebook and emails, ok. If it's payroll software, fantastic. If it's Dreamweaver and cryptocurrency mining, awesome.
    True, but not all devices lend themselves to do all those computing tasks - that was my point.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 5,707
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post

    It depends what you mean with 'computing'. I don't think you want to use a smartphone to run a payroll program for 10.000 employees or run an accounts receivable. Nor would you run any CPU intensive tasks on a smartphone or tablet. I would also hate to edit pictures with Gimp on a 4" screen.

    But if you think 'computing' is emails and facebook, then you can use all devices.
    Computing is whatever YOU personally do the most. If it's facebook and emails, ok. If it's payroll software, fantastic. If it's Dreamweaver and cryptocurrency mining, awesome.
    True, but not all devices lend themselves to do all those computing tasks - that was my point.
    But not everyone's computing needs lends themselves out to just one device, hence why a tablet or laptop can be that person's PC.

    Whatever device best suits your computing needs and/or is what you use most often will be the PC of your choice.
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  9. #19


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    I think we beat that one to death. So be it. Nuff said.
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  10. #20


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    I was just reading an article about seven consecutive quarters of decreasing PC sales and it leads to two conclusions: people don't upgrade their two year old laptop with a new one nor do they really require newer hardware.

    This is the dilemma with the PC, they just last SO much longer than a smartphone or simple tablet. Smartphones are on such a hyper release cycle but again, there is really no legitimate NEED other than want. Analysts can point blame where ever, but will completely disregard the fact that when it comes to Windows and PCs, those aren't on a hyper release cycle. An Intel i3 or i5 processor is abundantly enough for MOST people, not all. It doesn't make a difference if there is a new release of them.

    Which then it makes me think, what if Windows RT was expanded out beyond the tablet form factor? Instead of pushing x86 high end processors on people who have simple computing needs and probably could fair with a lower end Pentium or even Atom, why not move over to ARM based PCs? ARM has the benefit on Windows with very long battery life, and malware immunity thus far. Windows RT is immune to "winrot," and all the apps are centralized from one well known source. If Windows RT was rebranded, and built with better and more features similar to what is found on the Desktop side of things, it could actually ignite SOME of the loss of PC shipments. Those chromebooks that cost less than 200 dollars? If Windows RT's licensing fees were dropped, that paperweight called a chromebook can actually be useful.

    Fascinating.
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