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Windows 8's complexity tax shackles Microsoft

  1. #11


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    Windows 8.1 Pro & OS X Mavericks


    Ummm, is that really your start screen? You're gonna scare people from Windows with this lol

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  2. #12


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMasterFX View Post
    But you have to realize that a laptop and a desktop computer was meant for precision when working with programs, hence mouse and keyboard. There is no need for the tablet interface on a Windows computer. Why stick it in there when you know its not a touch device?
    If you are working in a program your not in Metro so what does it matter if its a touch interface or not? It's only used to launch the actual program. Which can be done quit easily with a mouse or keyboard or touch screen. When I say program I'm referring to a desktop program, not a Metro App. I fail to see the logic in your above statement.
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  3. #13


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMasterFX View Post
    But you have to realize that a laptop and a desktop computer was meant for precision when working with programs, hence mouse and keyboard. There is no need for the tablet interface on a Windows computer. Why stick it in there when you know its not a touch device?
    If you are working in a program your not in Metro so what does it matter if its a touch interface or not? It's only used to launch the actual program. Which can be done quit easily with a mouse or keyboard or touch screen. When I say program I'm referring to a desktop program, not a Metro App. I fail to see the logic in your above statement.
    Simple. You claim that the "Start Screen" is to launch applications. #1 A desktop computer does not need a full screen application launcher. #2 The task bar already takes care of your pinned applications. #3 The desktop itself allows you to add icons to quickly access applications. #4 The start menu gave you quick access to search files and folders without shoving the full screen search in your face. #4 The "Start Screen" is out of place when it comes to multiple displays. #5 What's the point of the "Start Screen" when you have all of these features at your disposal. #6 Why not leave the classic start menu? It it hard for Microsoft to keep it?

    And do you honestly believe that the start screen is really that, a "Start Screen"? No my friend. This is the beginning where Microsoft wants to kill the legacy desktop. Simple.

    Windows 7 was a great operating system. Microsoft makes me so mad that I just want to hit everybody at Microsoft. Why not make Windows 7.1 or whatever? With that, everybody will be happy and then Microsoft can go to their little corner and make their little Metro OS with their tablets. They make these stupid decisions. Who's in charge of the Windows team?

    I don't know, maybe I need a break from the Windows world or something. Long live Windows 7. Maybe when Apple said that they had a clear vision for their desktop, they weren't kidding.
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  4. #14


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMasterFX View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMasterFX View Post
    But you have to realize that a laptop and a desktop computer was meant for precision when working with programs, hence mouse and keyboard. There is no need for the tablet interface on a Windows computer. Why stick it in there when you know its not a touch device?
    If you are working in a program your not in Metro so what does it matter if its a touch interface or not? It's only used to launch the actual program. Which can be done quit easily with a mouse or keyboard or touch screen. When I say program I'm referring to a desktop program, not a Metro App. I fail to see the logic in your above statement.
    Simple. You claim that the "Start Screen" is to launch applications. #1 A desktop computer does not need a full screen application launcher. #2 The task bar already takes care of your pinned applications. #3 The desktop itself allows you to add icons to quickly access applications. #4 The start menu gave you quick access to search files and folders without shoving the full screen search in your face. #4 The "Start Screen" is out of place when it comes to multiple displays. #5 What's the point of the "Start Screen" when you have all of these features at your disposal. #6 Why not leave the classic start menu? It it hard for Microsoft to keep it?

    And do you honestly believe that the start screen is really that, a "Start Screen"? No my friend. This is the beginning where Microsoft wants to kill the legacy desktop. Simple.
    Getting back to your original statement. Clicking a tile to launch a program is no different than clicking a shortcut on your desktop. How much precision do you need for that? The Metro Start screen is no less precise with a mouse than it is with a touch screen. A good quality touch screen with stylus can be just as precise or more precise than your mouse.

    I run a triple monitor setup on my desktop. The stuff I use everyday is pined to my taskbar. Other frequently used programs and apps are pined to my Start Screen. The rest is on the all Apps screen. I find the search quicker and easier than navigating the old start menu. With my setup I hardly ever have to use it anyway. I can launch the Start Screen from any one of my three monitors, you can't do that with the Windows 7 Start Menu. I can also run Metro apps on one or all of my monitors at the same time if I want. They open on the screen Metro was launched on. Metro isn't hindering my multi monitor setup. I don't see how its out of place.
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