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Microsoft may bring back full start menu with 8.2

  1. #31


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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mcnulty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by insane014 View Post
    Whats up with the people and Start menu? Why do you want that small cluttered window back? It doesn't make any sense, Windows Start screen is the exact same thing but with a lot more common sense to it.
    It's designed for mouse use, for starters. It doesn't have flashing square icons, and it's not butt ugly.
    Agreed.
    It does its job in an unobtrusive manner.

    If people spent as much effort managing their Start Menus, as they do managing the Metro screen, they wouldn't have the sprawl problems that they complain about either.

    YES! +1

    I prefer Startmenu any time over Metro. Using Win 8-8.1 for over ½ year, I'm still looking for anything usefull from Metro and "apps".

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  2. #32


    OK. Fair comment. But my question was "Which settings and defaults do you find that only run in Metro now" The PDF opener was a comparatively new. Those with MS Office can still apply it as normal item. Previous to that, almost since PDFs were invented, most users have installed programs such as Adobe (free) as a standard default. Mail, calendar, Skype, picture viewer. I am still using these in Desktop mode, with already purchased, or free) third party software, so cannot comment. Truth is, I have always, even through Windows XP, preferred several third party alternatives to those built in by MS, so the fact that, as you say, they are Metro orientated, doesn't bother me a great deal.
    But, keep in view the context of this thread is the start menu, not what is now only a Metro App. Unless MS, assuming this roumur to be true (??), return those earlier programs, together with the menu, nothing will be different.
    There may be some things lurking there, but I have not encountered any non Metro items in settings, which are not available through the desktop and/or the Control panel.
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  3. #33


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    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    It is a curious news item. The link quotes Paul Thurrot. Going to Paul Thurrots blogs, I find he quotes Mary J as his source. Going to Mary J, after extensive googling, I cannot find any reference to the return of the Start Menu. Only hint I did find was the possibility of changes in 2015? Where goes Windows 8.2?
    Here is Paul's article where he mentions the Start Menu and "my sources" after mentioning Mary Jo' s information about "Threshold"

    http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/fu...dows-threshold

    Also an article about what might be the reason, as he looks at the shake up at Microsoft.

    Microsoft Windows Changes | Windows 8.1 content from Windows IT Pro

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  4. #34


    Quote Originally Posted by insane014 View Post
    Whats up with the people and Start menu? Why do you want that small cluttered window back? It doesn't make any sense, Windows Start screen is the exact same thing but with a lot more common sense to it.
    Consistency, and it's the way I've been doing it for over 20 years. I don't see why having it as an option for those who want to use it creates any issues.

    You call the start menu cluttered, but to me the start screen is an abysmal mess. Crap all over, tons of colors, different sized tiles, having to scroll a mile to the right, etc. I use the start screen for one thing, typing name of something and launching it. I'd I use it regularly, I pin to taskbar, and call it a day.

    To get into control panel, printers, shutdown, run box, etc....I use the start menu. And I do that kind of stuff all day. I just installed start 8 and gave not looked back since. Best of both worlds. Remember, this is Windows where you get choice, not Apple where there is just their way and you have to accept it.
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  5. #35


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    Another article from Mary Jo today on the "Mini Start Menu"

    Since Thurrott's initial December 10 report on the return of the Start Menu, I've heard from my own contacts that this is highly likely to happen. Microsoft is, indeed, highly likely to bring back Start Menu. Supposedly it's being called internally "mini-Start," (as it won't be a full-screen Start Menu like in Windows 8), one of my contacts said.
    What might a new Windows Start Menu look like? | ZDNet

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  6. #36


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    Another article from Mary Jo today on the "Mini Start Menu"

    Since Thurrott's initial December 10 report on the return of the Start Menu, I've heard from my own contacts that this is highly likely to happen. Microsoft is, indeed, highly likely to bring back Start Menu. Supposedly it's being called internally "mini-Start," (as it won't be a full-screen Start Menu like in Windows 8), one of my contacts said.
    What might a new Windows Start Menu look like? | ZDNet

    Jim
    Hi there.

    I STILL can't see what's wrong with people creating a custom toolbar and adding their OWN programs to it -- you can cascade as many times / levels as you want -- the old W7 menu occupied too much screen real estate and wasn't very flexible.

    Very simple to do - I described process in another post -- absolutely No registry edits or 3rd party apps required.

    Here's the link.

    Creating Usable Pgm toolbar WITH sub menus

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7. #37


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Drop View Post
    Of all the nerve! Just last week I came up with a recipe for a homemade start menu (How to Make a Cascading All-Apps Toolbar) and now MS is going to steal all my business away from me by bringing back THEIR start menu??? I'll sue them for copyright violation!

    Of course, I wasn't going to make any money on my "recipe" anyway. But it's not the money -- it's their sneaky, underhanded tactics that I can't stand. What a slimy, contemptible, lowdown trick!
    Hi there.

    Hate to disappoint you - but I'd posted that sort of stuff AGES ago --

    Create a folder containing just short cuts to the apps you want (or programs), and simply for each top level you need just put another folder in the main folder and then add the short cuts to the sub folder etc.

    I've used custom toolbars for ages - even on W7 -- I don't really miss the menu at all -- however I would like the floating Window idea for metro stuff etc.

    Here's my post from AGES ago

    Creating Usable Pgm toolbar WITH sub menus


    Cheers
    jimbo

    Yes, I saw your thread -- I posted something there too. Of course, the "create your own programs toolbar" idea wasn't mine. But what I posted in my thread was a BATCH FILE that will copy everything into your toolbar -- everything from BOTH your user start menu (in your user folder) AND the All-Users start menu (in C:\ProgramData) -- automatically including the same hierarchy of subfolders that they're organized into. If you were going to make your own folder with all THAT in it (about 150 programs in 20 subfolders) by creating and populating each folder yourself, it would be a lot of work. I'd be quite willing to do it, if there were no other way. But all it takes is two "XCOPY" instructions to the Command Prompt and it's all there.

    If you're happy with the toolbar you have now, then of course you don't need mine. But for those who never know when they might need ANY program in their system, and would like them ALL in one place like the screenshot in my post, download my batch file and follow the instructions I gave. Then your whole system will be in one set of cascading menus -- like the good old Start Menu that they took away.
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  8. #38


    I am on 8.1 and do not want the 'olde' system back. I have the option already with Advanced system Care which has a retro switch to revert win 8 and 8.1 to the old style. I am now used to the new format, made for touch screens, and see no need to revert.
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  9. #39


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    Quote Originally Posted by mart44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Baidukun View Post
    too good to be true.. really MS listening to it's costumers? am I dreaming?
    Microsoft might feel pressured to listen to their more vocal customers. The opinions of those who dislike the OS and therefore write about it may not reflect the opinions of the majority who just get on and learn/use it.
    Problem is, there are too few of those and MS gets beat up by the box manufacturers. The majority of the users do not adopt Windows 8/8.1

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  10. #40


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    Apart from the startmenu I would also like to see gadgets come back. In windows 8 I miss my currency gadget and my weatherforecast gadget om the desktop.
    Call me oldish all you want, but that is what I prefer.
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