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Microsoft may bring back full start menu with 8.2

  1. #21


    Quote Originally Posted by Baidukun View Post
    but many settings and default Microsoft software is moved to metro so if that can run in windows it would be great. it may even make me interested in using some of metro apps.
    Which settings and defaults do you find that only run in Metro now? . Curious.

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  2. #22


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Drop View Post
    Of all the nerve! Just last week I came up with a recipe for a homemade start menu (How to Make a Cascading All-Apps Toolbar) and now MS is going to steal all my business away from me by bringing back THEIR start menu??? I'll sue them for copyright violation!

    Of course, I wasn't going to make any money on my "recipe" anyway. But it's not the money -- it's their sneaky, underhanded tactics that I can't stand. What a slimy, contemptible, lowdown trick!
    Hi there.

    Hate to disappoint you - but I'd posted that sort of stuff AGES ago --

    Create a folder containing just short cuts to the apps you want (or programs), and simply for each top level you need just put another folder in the main folder and then add the short cuts to the sub folder etc.

    I've used custom toolbars for ages - even on W7 -- I don't really miss the menu at all -- however I would like the floating Window idea for metro stuff etc.

    Here's my post from AGES ago

    Creating Usable Pgm toolbar WITH sub menus


    Cheers
    jimbo
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  3. #23


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    Quote Originally Posted by Baidukun View Post
    too good to be true.. really MS listening to it's costumers? am I dreaming?
    Microsoft might feel pressured to listen to their more vocal customers. The opinions of those who dislike the OS and therefore write about it may not reflect the opinions of the majority who just get on and learn/use it.
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    I do think it's possible Microsoft gave in, but I'll wait until I can install it.
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  5. #25


    Whats up with the people and Start menu? Why do you want that small cluttered window back? It doesn't make any sense, Windows Start screen is the exact same thing but with a lot more common sense to it.

    I guess its psychological because users feel that Start screen is actually an app which covers their working screen so they freak out because they have the feeling they have to leave their window in other to get something done.

    MS did one right thing and that is getting rid of the Start Menu but people just cant let it go, they want more of the same ol'
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  6. #26


    Those "Metro Apps" should have been no more than sideline at first for couple of years until there was a large number of good ones. The way it is now it is difficult to find good ones if any. Paying for them for large part of the world is another story, just impossible. Once the number of programs installed on my computer shot past 50 I had no use for Start menu, now with 100 or more it would take heavy digging to start any even with a lot of work of grouping them. So, long time ago I gave up on that and instead grouped shortcut icons in folders named by the type of programs in them. Some of shortcuts to them are pinned to task bar and that's it, no more stupid Start Menu. Also 2 monitors and some on primary and some on secondary. Grouped programs on Metro too so 1 click away from anything needed.
    If you ask me, if they bring Start Menu back, that should be optional too. That way it would be one of the most configurable systems and at least some gripes would be eliminated.
    Possibility of changing tiles and making them to look like desktop icons would get most of "I don't want new Windows because they are Ugly" comments gone.
    Letting Apps behave just like any desktop program (floating and being fully adjustable ) and some more cosmetics would bring back at least 90% of dissatisfied customers back.
    It's futile to talk about "under the hood" goodies to vast number of people that do not understand or do not care about it as long as at the first glance at a picture in newspapers or on internet they get repulsed.
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  7. #27


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    Sounds like a good move by MS, I just hope if they bring the start menu back it is optional

    After 6 months of using 8/8.1 I like the way it works now

    On an evening when I want to relax I find Metro very nice, split screen watching a video or listening to music while I do a bit of browsing

    During the day I mainly use the desktop mode

    For me this makes me feel like I have shut off from thinking about any work on an evening and use my Laptop for more media/enjoyment features
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  8. #28


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    Quote Originally Posted by insane014 View Post
    Whats up with the people and Start menu? Why do you want that small cluttered window back? It doesn't make any sense, Windows Start screen is the exact same thing but with a lot more common sense to it.
    It's designed for mouse use, for starters. It doesn't have flashing square icons, and it's not butt ugly.
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  9. #29


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    Quote Originally Posted by mcnulty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by insane014 View Post
    Whats up with the people and Start menu? Why do you want that small cluttered window back? It doesn't make any sense, Windows Start screen is the exact same thing but with a lot more common sense to it.
    It's designed for mouse use, for starters. It doesn't have flashing square icons, and it's not butt ugly.
    Agreed.
    It does its job in an unobtrusive manner.

    If people spent as much effort managing their Start Menus, as they do managing the Metro screen, they wouldn't have the sprawl problems that they complain about either.
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    Windows 7 uiltimate, Windows 8.1 pro 64bit, Windows server 2008R2, Windows 10 TP


    Quote Originally Posted by insane014 View Post
    Whats up with the people and Start menu? Why do you want that small cluttered window back? It doesn't make any sense, Windows Start screen is the exact same thing but with a lot more common sense to it.

    I guess its psychological because users feel that Start screen is actually an app which covers their working screen so they freak out because they have the feeling they have to leave their window in other to get something done.

    MS did one right thing and that is getting rid of the Start Menu but people just cant let it go, they want more of the same ol'
    Start menu takes around 15% of work space on my screen other 85% can be used for something else (when multitasking you can see other programs running and its not so jarring than changing to full screen UI that is so different to launch program that brings you back to desktop.)
    Taking 85% less space it has everything I need (and more than full screen start screen), quick access to most used locations (computer, documents, pictures, control panel, network etc.) most used software can be pinned or populate list by most used automatically, of course you can remove manually. programs on start menu has jump list with most used functions/recent files. if program is not on list you just type part of name and you get it. you can also use structural folder menu (you can customize structure) to open other programs. It has quick access to power functions (shutdown, restart, log off, etc.)

    I don't want same old. move from windows xp to windows vista and later windows 7 menu was good thing.. and old Windows 95 style start menu is even worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    Which settings and defaults do you find that only run in Metro now? . Curious.
    Some Control panel items was moved/added to metro UI, if you want to access all configuration options you'll have to open metro version of pc settings.. most of software bundled with windows like mail, calendar, Skype, picture viewer, pdf reader runs in metro. of course you can find 3rd party software for those tasks but standard ones bundled with windows is going metro way.
    Last edited by Baidukun; 11 Dec 2013 at 10:06.
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