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Microsoft may bring back full start menu with 8.2

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbofish View Post
    There is just too many things that are either too difficult or simply impossible to get to without a proper start button
    For example?
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    That's cheating - that was not from the start menu.
    When "Show Administrative Tools" is set to YES, Resource Monitor tile will show up in "All Apps" of Start Menu.

    Jim
    That's good to know. Thanks. I guess I still have trouble with this dual UI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrippr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by turbofish View Post
    There is just too many things that are either too difficult or simply impossible to get to without a proper start button
    For example?
    Having two different versions of SQL server will mess up the searches. Installing SQL server and then the full version of VS 2010 will make searching for VS impossible. Having three different versions of VS (2008, 2010, 2012). Trying to find that program that you know where it is but can't remember the name of it. That happens to me a lot. There are these programs that are buried inside an application that I don't use every day but once every few weeks
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    That's good to know. Thanks. I guess I still have trouble with this dual UI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbofish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hotrippr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by turbofish View Post
    There is just too many things that are either too difficult or simply impossible to get to without a proper start button
    For example?
    Having two different versions of SQL server will mess up the searches. Installing SQL server and then the full version of VS 2010 will make searching for VS impossible. Having three different versions of VS (2008, 2010, 2012). Trying to find that program that you know where it is but can't remember the name of it. That happens to me a lot. There are these programs that are buried inside an application that I don't use every day but once every few weeks
    Hello. Been down this road before. I agree that older installers can work better with older menuing tools.
    SQL Server and different versions Visual Studio (and sub programs) can be pinned to the start screen as demonstrated previously. The installers are out of date. It can be easier for more complex programs to be listed in a classic menu if that is what you like. I agree with you to a point, but disagree about the impossible concept. ANY program that is installed or that exists, and is executable, can be pinned somewhere and included in search results if configured correctly.
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    This is something that I have done at least a 100 times now with the same results (use to be a college professor and did many, many installs for students). Install SQL 2008R2, install VS 2010. Do a search for visual studio. You get zero return. Why? SQL 2008R2 installs the shell for VS 2010 and it is now called Data Tools (or something like that). Even installing the full version doesn't fix that. Plus, why would I want to spend all of that time creating new short cuts when the old system did it automatically?
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    Just a note, this is a problem for Windows 8, windows 8. 1, windows 2012, windows 2012RT. It just creates more work for me to get around. Put in a start button/menu, bypass what was formerly known as metro (why in all that is good did Microsoft install that stupid crap on the servers?!) and you can forget about it
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    But then again, my wife loves using modern UI apps on her surface. It just works better for devices that assume that you will be holding them in your hands such as a phone or tablet but for her desktop as well as all desktops that I set up for her at her work, she insists on a start button
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbofish View Post
    Just a note, this is a problem for Windows 8, windows 8. 1, windows 2012, windows 2012RT. It just creates more work for me to get around. Put in a start button/menu, bypass what was formerly known as metro (why in all that is good did Microsoft install that stupid crap on the servers?!) and you can forget about it
    This is a point of view.
    Why did they include WinRT on servers? Because Windows 8/8.1/2012/2012R2 share the same kernel design. It is not an installation. WinRT has many possibilities for development on Servers. Still, one can install server without a GUI, and run it completely from the command prompt.
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