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    Quote Originally Posted by pezzonovante View Post
    Sabermetrics is not just good for evaluating MLB level players. It's good at identifying young talents too -- much more so than old-fashioned scouts. Old school scouts looks for those so-called intangible qualities in players almost all of which don't exist in reality. Sabermetrics values young hitters' plate discipline and pitchers' strikeout rate etc.
    No, you're so wrong here it's hilarious. I know scouts, Pezz. I talked to them and front office people about their jobs for many years. You really have no clue. The minor leagues are totally different than the majors, and even in the minors there are so many discrepancies between leagues, players change as they grow older, etc. Plate discipline is something baseball people have paid attention to since the 1800s. Scouts aren't old-school intangible guys. The more you go on about this stuff the more you reveal your ignorance about it. I'm not personally attacking you, it's just you flat out don't know what you're talking about.


    Quote Originally Posted by pezzonovante View Post
    . The Oakland A's had no RIGHT to win as many games as they did with their payroll -- Sabermetrics made all the difference. But then why couldn't Billy keep it up? Because Sabermetrics spread like fire soon.
    Again, I'm laughing here. Really? Is that why Beane drafted more crappy players than Alderson? Is that also why the A's had no RIGHT to be good in the 60s and 70s? Or the Royals had no RIGHT to be as good as they were in the 70s and 80s? Or the Twins in the 80s and 90s? How come the Braves finished in last place in 1988, 89 and 90 but then got incredible in 1991 and just about every year after that? Is that why Beane signed Jason Kendall to a dumb contract? What do the Red Sox and Rays (or anyone else) have to do with how the A's build their entire organization?

    Good Lord.

    Quote Originally Posted by pezzonovante View Post
    And I haven't told anyone they have problems with their eye-sight just because they don't find Metro attractive like I do.
    Correct. You've just questioned the entire operation of their brain by calling them Luddites. Then you say how gorgeous Metro is a billion times, in case we missed it the first 999,999,999 times you said it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Travis View Post
    This thread isn't about Metro any more, it's about filling in some acceptance void Pezz has.
    Or satirical mocking?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Travis View Post
    This thread isn't about Metro any more, it's about filling in some acceptance void Pezz has.
    Or satirical mocking?...
    Why not? Here is an article worth reading

    Five Reasons why Windows 8 will be dead on arrival | ZDNet
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    [QUOTE=Colonel Travis;59094No, you're so wrong here it's hilarious. I know scouts, Pezz. I talked to them and front office people about their jobs for many years. You really have no clue. The minor leagues are totally different than the majors, and even in the minors there are so many discrepancies between leagues, players change as they grow older, etc. Plate discipline is something baseball people have paid attention to since the 1800s. Scouts aren't old-school intangible guys. The more you go on about this stuff the more you reveal your ignorance about it. I'm not personally attacking you, it's just you flat out don't know what you're talking about. [/quote]

    Oh wait, you ACTUALLY covered MLB for a living? I know that's a complete LIE. Otherwise you would know how dumbass those scouts really are. They didn't use to value players' walk rate -- they called it clogging up the bases. They wanted players who could perform under "clutch" situations, they wanted players who had no "fear" in their eyes, they wanted players who had better "team chemistry". Sabermetrics have proved these things DO NOT exist. They are flat out lies -- just like most of what you say.

    Quote Originally Posted by pezzonovante View Post
    Again, I'm laughing here. Really? Is that why Beane drafted more crappy players than Alderson? Is that also why the A's had no RIGHT to be good in the 60s and 70s? Or the Royals had no RIGHT to be as good as they were in the 70s and 80s? Or the Twins in the 80s and 90s? How come the Braves finished in last place in 1988, 89 and 90 but then got incredible in 1991 and just about every year after that? Is that why Beane signed Jason Kendall to a dumb contract? What do the Red Sox and Rays (or anyone else) have to do with how the A's build their entire organization?
    Anyone who knows even a little about baseball (obviously not you) would know drafting good players involves PLENTY of luck. VERY few percentage of talented players actually make it to the top. Yes, Sabermetrics does help a lot in drafting and identifying good young talent, and it has helped Billy too, but you can go only so far with that. DRAFTING great players was not Billy's biggest competitive advantage. It was TRADING for and SIGNING undervalued players who had things like good walk-rate and K/BB ratio. That was a competitive advantage he had until EVERY other MLB tem started adopting Sabermetrics. Now he DOES NOT have that advantage anymore. He can't find high OBP guys any more at a cheap price. That's why with their limited budget they can't succeed as much as they used to.

    But I can go on and on about Sabermetric all day. I can even post links on these EXACT same issues by people like Tango Tiger, MGL, Fangraphs/HardballTimes writers. But it's not worth it. You are too ignorant and closed-minded to ever understand these things. You are probably a big admirer of clowns like Murray Chass and Joe Morgan. Lol!


    Quote Originally Posted by pezzonovante View Post
    Correct. You've just questioned the entire operation of their brain by calling them Luddites. Then you say how gorgeous Metro is a billion times, in case we missed it the first 999,999,999 times you said it.
    Ha ha -- you have HUGE problems, Colonel -- massive ones. I CLEARLY stated I didn't call them Luddites for not finding Metro beautiful. I called them Luddites for ignoring scientific research on the usability and productivity of Metro UI. I have no problem whatsoever that they don't find Metro UI as gorgeous and beautiful as I do. I have ZERO problem with that. But I said this before. You will probably STILL not understand what I'm trying to say.
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    This "scientific research" is ALL you got in defending the Metro screen and with no solid evidence to back it up besides your own opinions and the "research" itself. It just obscures the screen and those that are running in the Desktop really because its fullscreen and don't repeat to me that getting to see the Desktop is pointless because using Metro apps are better and would replace Desktop apps. Simply put, many of us see little or no use with these Metro apps who are currently dumbed down in terms of usability and design for Desktop PC's and on my previous posts, I have explained why.

    I and so many others certainly don't want the whole screen consumed by the Metro screen because it covers up everything else, running apps, the Desktop and I keep saying that over and over again. And by my understanding, a "research's" main purpose is not to solve a problem on its own and as I said researches vary depending on the methods used by the different groups of people who conducted them so the research by MS should not be the one and only basis of seeing which is best. Some of these "Luddities" you say have conducted research on their own and came up with different conclusions than MS. Get that? Its almost as if this research thing has been indoctrinated to you.
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    Vertex? This is pointless, go back a couple of months, I have stated the same thing you are. Windows 8 would be better for a Tablet/MS Phone than a desktop. You can type till you have carpal tunnel, but won't make a dent in what other's think.
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    Well Mike, I believe I learned a lot on this forum from those who share my views as well as those who don't. If Windows 8 is better for tablets and phones than desktops and that I don't use tablets and these kinds of phones, seeing Windows 8 being developed like this leaves me unsatisfied.
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    Vertex, look at my current Oh NO! Look here boys and girls! in the chill out section, NOW the Start button took a dive off of Windows, and clicking on the Windows key on your keyboard doesn't give it back either.
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    Yes Mike, I've seen news about them removing the Start Menu from the taskbar from some site. Quite sad.
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    Pezz, you don't know scouting, you don't know baseball as well as you think you do. Sorry. You simply do not have the knowledge you think you do, and you sure as hell have no wisdom about much in general. You don't know who I am or what I've written about baseball, and if you did I'm confident you wouldn't have unloaded that excrement on the screen.

    You gloss over everyone's arguments here, doesn't matter the subject, you assume things me and others assume but don't, you demand reason and give none, you point to thinkers but do little of your own, you type in caps WAY TOO MUCH, you have a superiority complex. The latter would be bearable if you had some kind of clout in anything except being the classic, self-righteous, immature, internet dope. And you don't even stand out in that category. You're just like all the rest of them out there.
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