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  1. #141


    I'm not surprised at all with simplification in GUIs, after all, object oriented programing and modular apps have been predicted and promised long time ago. One job, one app is not a bad idea at all and is coming with some detours anyway. Art and detailing have been replaced bu utilitarian look of products long time ago, so no big surprise with GUI and computer use too.
    In some ways, I'm longing for times when machines, buildings, etc. were highly ornamented and pleasing to the eye but that time is gone, nobody wants to turn the crank to get something started or keep it going, push the button and let it rip is everywhere, why would computers as a cutting edge of technology be exempt.
    I'm expecting future OSs to be even more simplified on the surface, push the button and there it goes, tinkerers not welcome. Less and less people even want to know how something works, let alone change something in it.
    Some may call it "Dumb-ing it" but that's nothing new either, it's been going for may years now and nothing has even slowed it down yet.

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  2. #142


    I wish they'd bring back the touch 'flicks' that were in windows 7. Very useful for a touch screen and they took it away the dirty bums.
    They probably interfere with the metro apps but u think they could isolate the 'flicks' to desktop programs.
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  3. #143


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    You are obviously missing my point - which I may have worded wrong. The point is that the new UI is trying to attract people that have no intention (or are not capable) to learn anything about computers. They just want to push buttons like at the McDo's cash register. And the new applications are the same - everything comes out of the can, just put it into the microwave.This way they can convince even the most sceptical person to buy a system. Why do you think they made all those commercials with little kids demonstrating Windows 8 - like a Playmobil.And guess what - all those sophisticated people in those companies that use the advanced applications that you are describing don't seem to buy Windows 8.
    I think you're right that the metro UI, apart from being more adapted to touchscreens and mobiles, is an attempt at simplifying and attracting regular users. And while you seem sarcastic about it, I think overall it succeeds at that. It's reminiscent of some of the first graphic OSes (win 1, Microsoft Bob ) or even some DOS shells (thinking about gem) : big buttons, limited multitasking, settings and customization hidden or difficult to access. That might be bad for power users but for regular joes who only use a few applications, one at a time, it's probably great.
    The main problem is that people react badly to change (be it for good or bad), give it a few years, and it will be fine...

    Anyway, I use windows 8, I have uninstalled all apps except for the store and skydrive (and not even using them yet), I start automatically in desktop mode, and don't see much difference from my habits in xp/win 7. While there's all this craze about the start menu, it hasn't really affected me (and I used it fairly often) : main applications have shortcuts on the desktop and I either use search or put folder shortcuts with program categories again on the desktop for others (reminds me of win 3 ). Keep in mind tho, that I have always been a fan of windows/file explorer (always at least 3 open), and it's one of my main ways of navigating through the pc. If you know your way around the os, it's pretty easy to have an experience similar to previous windows, and with 3rd party software, all's done for you. Sigh... Not sure what all this debate is really about.
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  4. #144


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    Vista and Win7


    I have no problem using windows 8. In the early days I had even made a dozen tutorials about it. But for my day to day use I still prefer Windows 7. Maybe it is just because I am too lazy to repeat my rather complicated setup.

    In addition I do not really fancy to pay for new licenses for my 6 PCs. The one license I bought for $40 I installed under VMware Player on an external SSD. This way I can run it on any of my systems.

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  5. #145


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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    I'm not surprised at all with simplification in GUIs, after all, object oriented programing and modular apps have been predicted and promised long time ago. One job, one app is not a bad idea at all and is coming with some detours anyway. Art and detailing have been replaced bu utilitarian look of products long time ago, so no big surprise with GUI and computer use too.
    In some ways, I'm longing for times when machines, buildings, etc. were highly ornamented and pleasing to the eye but that time is gone, nobody wants to turn the crank to get something started or keep it going, push the button and let it rip is everywhere, why would computers as a cutting edge of technology be exempt.
    I'm expecting future OSs to be even more simplified on the surface, push the button and there it goes, tinkerers not welcome. Less and less people even want to know how something works, let alone change something in it.
    Some may call it "Dumb-ing it" but that's nothing new either, it's been going for may years now and nothing has even slowed it down yet.
    Hi there

    The "One job one app" can be OK as a design philosophy - however it shouldn't be forgotten jobs often have to co-exist with other processes and execute conditionally on other actions running or being completed.

    So long also as the design strategy doesn't inhibit people from CONCURRENTLY running as many (or as few) tasks as their system and desires allow then it's fine - but often I despair of these so called "simplifications" as they are almost impossible to fix if something goes wrong - so you have to be CAREFUL what you simplify and ensure there is a CONSISTENT API across the whole platform otherwise upgrading / changing either apps or the OS would become a COMPLETE nightmare.

    However I think (as far as I can gather from professional developers that I know in the I.T industry) it's not MODULAR programming any more (that's all old old stuff and Dinosaur Programming) but all OBJECT Orientated stuff (O.O) these days and things like Classes etc can become very complex indeed - however when it's done correctly errors are considerably reduced and development time is cut down considerably.

    As far as LOOK and FEEL is concerened - I prefer a more ornamental and "comfortable" style than the stark modern look -- for example I utterly LOATHE those hideously expensive "Minimalist looking" Loft style apartments so beloved of the "Urban Young" these days where every item (all 3 of them) has to have a specific function -- They always make me feel I've gone into a Railway work shed with a few black painted Girders as shelves and you have to hunt for somewhere to sit while being totally afraid even to LOOK at anything in case a smear mark appears. -- I prefer a more relaxed slightly cluttered comfortable look with plenty of wood and even NON functional objects or ornaments around.

    Same with the GUI -- too simple and I don't think it works.

    Cheers
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  6. #146


    I was just referring to trends, not that I like them. I'm sure that beauty and practicality are not mutually exclusive. I have antique furniture and a lot of old stuff as well as a lot of paintings (most of them left from my mother, she was academically schooled ). So yes I would like to see nicer icons and the rest of stuff on or about computers more esthetically presented but not at the expense of usability and visibility.
    Luckily, there's a lot of different themes for windows which more esthetically oriented people make and present so there are a lot opportunities to change what folks at MS deem acceptable. I always extensively customized my cars and boats so doing that to OS is much less work.
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  7. #147


    Who needs tiles when I have all the shortcuts on desktop and in a way that is logical to me. Win 7 had no classic menus and a search that is ridiculous. Win 8 may be fast loading but its search is horrid and Metro looks like it was designed by Fisher price. Both 7 and 8 have this "Hide and seek" GUI. Frustrating at best. I use Classic shell on both my 7 and 8 machines. As for 8.2 and 9? They will probably only work on smartphones and tablets. Windows 8 series is what consoles are to gaming. No serious gamer will use a console. PC desktop is the only way to go for serious applications.
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  8. #148


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    Same with me. I don't think I've used the Start Screen or any Metro app in months. If I need something that isn't on my Desktop or Taskbar, I may use the Metro all-apps screen. But that rarely happens.
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  9. #149


    Quote Originally Posted by nguchiro View Post
    Who needs tiles when I have all the shortcuts on desktop and in a way that is logical to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Drop View Post
    Same with me.
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  10. #150


    Posts : 80
    Windows 8.1 64 bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Oh boy, looks like I'll have to go through and update the tutorials again.

    If I was you I would send the &@$+@R£'$ an invoice. They may pay it as well.
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