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Windows 8.2. New Changes Are Coming

  1. #101


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    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    Don't get me wrong. Once I ridded the newly install of a few annoyances, I like 8.1 just fine, albeit only in desktop mode.

    What I want to see of a future release, is a return to full commitment to the desktop option. Tifkam can be kept, as an option, for those who so choose... but a return to a fully functional desktop that works right out of the box and is FULLY supported is the only way ms will quiet the protests... the only way.

    Surely by now, even the most ardent supporters of tifkam realize this...

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  2. #102


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Where does this word 'tifcam' come from?? Sounds funny.
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  3. #103


    Here here, Let us create legislation to outlaw progress and innovation altogether. We can start with medicine, who needs a cure anyway, let's do it the old fashioned way, get sick and die...Just joking, what is the problem with progress and innovation anyway?

    Should all the world's corporations go back to using pencil and paper? Computers and even Ms Windows 1.0 were a joke at one time, but look at what they have become. Look at cell phones, garbage 20-30 years ago, and now we cannot can't live without them, and they still suck.

    I am a retired veteran fifty plus and I don't have any more problems with windows 8, than I did with every version of windows prior. That includes windows 1.0 and DOS 1.0. Nothing is perfect, and when it is, we just screw it up with something new. Then it becomes almost perfect, and walla, we do it again!

    As for corporations and small businesses, they will do like always, they will wait until windows is stable and rock solid, then they will deploy, with or without the desktop and or Modern UI.

    Living in the past is a losers game. 10 years ago I bought pc's and laptops for my kids and grandchildren. Today there is not one to be found except my laptop, they all have smartphones and tablets, and discarded their pc's and laptops.

    Anyway that is how I believe it will be played out, just like my family, but eventually on a global scale.

    As for this thread, what windows 8.2? if 9.0 is due out in the spring of 2014, then an 8.2 release would be unlikely. That would be to rapid a release cycle, even for Microsoft!

    Henry
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  4. #104


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Where does this word 'tifkam' come from?? Sounds funny.
    I got it from Rickkins. I like it. lol
    The Interface Formerly Known As Metro
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  5. #105


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Where does this word 'tifkam' come from?? Sounds funny.
    I got it from Rickkins. I like it. lol
    The Interface Formerly Known As Metro
    Thanks.
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  6. #106


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by Hewjr100 View Post
    Here here, Let us create legislation to outlaw progress and innovation altogether. We can start with medicine, who needs a cure anyway, let's do it the old fashioned way, get sick and die...Just joking, what is the problem with progress and innovation anyway?

    Should all the world's corporations go back to using pencil and paper? Computers and even Ms Windows 1.0 were a joke at one time, but look at what they have become. Look at cell phones, garbage 20-30 years ago, and now we cannot can't live without them, and they still suck.

    I am a retired veteran fifty plus and I don't have any more problems with windows 8, than I did with every version of windows prior. That includes windows 1.0 and DOS 1.0. Nothing is perfect, and when it is, we just screw it up with something new. Then it becomes almost perfect, and walla, we do it again!

    As for corporations and small businesses, they will do like always, they will wait until windows is stable and rock solid, then they will deploy, with or without the desktop and or Modern UI.

    Living in the past is a losers game. 10 years ago I bought pc's and laptops for my kids and grandchildren. Today there is not one to be found except my laptop, they all have smartphones and tablets, and discarded their pc's and laptops.

    Anyway that is how I believe it will be played out, just like my family, but eventually on a global scale.

    As for this thread, what windows 8.2? if 9.0 is due out in the spring of 2014, then an 8.2 release would be unlikely. That would be to rapid a release cycle, even for Microsoft!

    Henry
    I was professional programmer who wrote his first program in 1958 and developed operating systems for 35 years. I have no problems with Windows 8, but I think it sucks - and that big time in many ways.

    My 6 PCs will continue with Windows 7, Vista and Mint. I run Windows 8.1 in a virtual partition just to see how bad it will get.
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  7. #107


    @whs
    For you, as a programer and therefore having more insight to the inner workings, I can see being somewhat frustrated with unexpected changes in the OS or it's weaknesses but for the rest of us "users", I think that any improvement, even just graphical is a step forward. I for one, do not have any problems (apart from some driver problems) do not have anything against 8.1 and the same goes for W8. For me at least, transition from W7 to W8 was just natural and took me just a short time to get used to. I expect more changes to future developments of windows and I'm just fine with gradual changes. The moment I feel it does not fit me any more I'll switch to something else, even if that means much steeper learning curve and change of habits, or stay with the current one that suits me, no problem. Only sudden changes I can't afford is in hardware. No use (literary, I don't need tablets or smart phones) but desktop PC will be my mainstay as long as possible. So, M$, keep on changing OS and I'll use it as long as it suits me, after that, no regrets, bye.
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  8. #108


    Hasselt, Belgium
    Posts : 75
    Windows 8.1 Pro 32/64


    Tablets and Smartphones are a handy tool when you are on the go. But as a web developer, I can't go without a desktop or laptop. Although, a hybrid like Surface could also work, I think.

    I really need a real keyboard and mouse to work with. A fake keyboard on the screen decreases the workspace on the screen too much.

    Probably also, because I can type blind and I need the feel of the keys under my fingers and not just a flat surface were you don't notice you engaging the keys you press.


    Windows 8 (now 8.1) is the first OS I have upgraded to in years. I normally always stayed with the OS that was installed on the device, until I upgraded the device. However, with Windows 8, I made an exception and I upgraded all the devices I have to it.

    In the past, I already didn't use the start menu to start programs with. I just pushed start and used search to find the program I wanted to start. I did the same in Windows 8, but I also made some tiles of frequently used programs on it. This made it even faster to start my programs than before.

    Sure, I could still have used the desktop with its icons on it, but I find the new start menu (Modern UI) more easily to work with and I can keep my desktop clean from all those icons of programs that I use.

    It all depends on how you like to work. I still use a lot of key combinations to do things in Windows, instead of grabbing my mouse to do it. And that's something that hasn't changed over the different Windows versions. You only get more and more of those fast keys to play with.

    I can say, my laptop, which I bought back in the day with the recently released Windows Vista on it, is now being used with Windows 8.1 on it, and it works faster and smoother than before.

    The desktop with Windows 7 on it, is now also running Windows 8.1, but I don't notice too much difference between them. Windows 7 was a good OS, and Windows 8.1 is almost the same, except for the interface. However, it works in the same way as 7 did. And sure, for companies, it will be better that they can start their PCs to the desktop at once, instead of staying on the Modern UI at the start. But that's something Microsoft already fixed with 8.1.

    The Modern UI, well, it has a better overview of things than the old Start menu did for me. You can cull out the things you don't need, and keep the tiles of the programs you often start. It's a faster and more transparent interface for me.

    I think I only needed about a week to get used to Windows 8, and even when I did have some troubles with 8.1. In the end, it wasn't 8.1 who was the cause, but third party software that wasn't ready yet for 8.1.

    All my systems are now working like before, and I'm very happy about that. Now, next time, I probably will wait until the new OS is a month in circulation before I upgrade, so the third party software suppliers have fixed their programs.
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  9. #109


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there.

    Innovation is fine when it serves a purpose - but there's been plenty of examples where so called innovation is actually a REGRESSIVE step. However INNOVATION is NOT THE SAME AS PROGRESS.

    We see examples every day -- one example a few years ago of a city wide experiment - Banning traffic from a city centre and only allowing those "Electric" public utility things that were a bit better than electric Milk floats. Hideously expensive and being public property people treated them with about the same respect as a Public Toilet - so the vehicles were usually dirty or broken. Expensive mistake and finally abandoned.

    Also restricting traffic into a city is just CRAZY -- after all a City was founded on people coming together for trade and commerce - if people can't trade they take their business elsewhere and then the city dies with boarded up businesses -- some places in the UK have nearly 60% of their local shops boarded up and the rest are just hideous fast food outlets. I'm sure there are examples too in other places = fortunately we still LIVE in the city and town centres !! and don't ban traffic from them.

    So you have to be very careful in distinguishing between INNOVATION and PROGRESS -- the two are NOT ALWAYS THE SAME.

    This relates to Windows in the sense that in NO WAY was (IS?) the Metro interface in any shape or form suitable for a lot of BUSINESS / Workplace activities that require a lot of creative content often requiring multiple screens. At least Windows 8.1 makes the whole OS more desktop friendly and hopefully Windows 8.2 / W9 will re-inforce this fact -- even better if Windows were to be split between Business, Mobile and Consumer (allowing of course an individual user to purchase whatever version they felt like). There's no reason for example why the Business version couldn't have say the Mobile piece added as an extra "bolt on" if required etc. Now that IMO would be PROGRESS.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Last edited by jimbo45; 25 Nov 2013 at 06:54.
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  10. #110


    Adelaide
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    Prince


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Where does this word 'tifkam' come from?? Sounds funny.
    I got it from Rickkins. I like it. lol
    The Interface Formerly Known As Metro
    It's a variation of "The Artist Formerly Known As Prince".
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    I call him Mr Squiggle.
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