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Windows 8.2. New Changes Are Coming

  1. #91


    Yes, I'm one of those who find it acceptable. I use the Modern interface as a dashboard of sorts. I switch to it and have live tiles set up, such as weather and news. I use the desktop mostly, but the interface is there if I want it. I do have Start8 and I'm lucky in the fact that everything runs smoothly. Yes, I have 8.1 also.

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  2. #92


    100% in agreement about keyboard activation. Since Win+# already opens taskbar items (limited to 9) perhaps they could use Win+alpha combination for toolbars.

    I'm one of those traditionalists the likes the toolbar on the left edge.
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    Don't forget for traditionalists you can also MOVE the toolbar title back to the left next to the new Windows start button and by reducing the size you only show the toolbar title. Simply just click the arrow.

    What would be MEGA though if these custom toolbars could be activated via keyboard commands such as WIN+X for the Windows system menu that gets displayed -- anybody got any ideas here on how to link a keyboard command to a toolbar.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  3. #93


    Posts : 5
    Windows 8 x86


    I afraid that once MS will remove the classic Desktop.
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  4. #94


    Denmark
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    Windows 8.1 64bit Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Burgurne View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    The MetroUI is not horrible, or cumbersome to use. And actually is better in many ways to the old Start Menu.

    1.) as stated, you can configure all the apps you use the most and get to them actually faster than from a start menu
    2.) The Tile system gives you a lot of power to configure it anyway you want.
    3.) The apps menu is more defined and can be sorted in different ways, it actually is easier to find what you are looking for than the old Start Menu
    4.) The search feature can also get you to apps faster than the start menu.
    Hit Win+S and start typing the name of the app. You can arrow down, hit enter, and there you go.

    Yes, it is change, yes it is a learning curve, but it is also better.
    Please allow me to disagree with you here.

    1) Why is it faster than arrange icons configure all the programs you use the most and get to them actually faster than from a start menu

    2) No it does not. If I could made folders to put apps in, to make a clear overview, then it would be different, and then you would be right

    3) No, again it is because of the lack of folders. On desktop AND in startmenu you can arrange things in folders (Office, Games, Photos aso), that can not be done in tifkam

    4) Yes, here you are right, as long as you know the name of the program you search for, and that we do allmost all the time

    Hi there
    It's quite easy to create Menus (with sub menus) that I think are BETTER than the old fixed menu (W7 and earlier) - simply use CUSTOM TOOLBARS

    You don't need any "Startisback" or any third party apps or registry hacks to do this either and the whole system IMO is FAR more useful and flexible.

    Thread here on how to do it.

    Creating Usable Pgm toolbar WITH sub menus

    Enc screenshot


    Cheers
    jimbo
    Yes Jimbo, but it was NOT toolbars I refered to, it was Metro tiles, and the lack og Folderoption there, NOT toolbars. Folder in toolbars was also possible in windows 7, so that is not anything new

    I answered to this: The MetroUI is not horrible,
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  5. #95


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    Win 8.1 Pro


    I will agree to a certain extent to have folder nesting in Tile View
    But even that can get overly cumbersome.
    It's the same issue I have with Libraries. That can turn into a nightmare for data control and organization.
    Especially when it is used nilliy willy without thought. You can very easily end up with garbage all over the place.

    Having smaller tiles and being able to organize them into groups does work.
    Being able to scroll through the groups or click the bottom right edge to zoom out and select a group is very easy
    It gives you more control in finding what you are looking for more easily and faster than waiting for cascading menus to pop out as you drill through them.

    That doesn't mean there isn't a place for Taskbar Tool Bars. There absolutely is.
    and again, using search is even faster if you know what you are looking for.

    It's a different way of using the OS, and once learned, it is more efficient.
    Just as the Ribbons are in Office and Explorer.
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  6. #96


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    This is going to be an endless chain of arguments like on the Ribbon subject. I think we should just agree that everybody shall use which seems to be easiest for him/her. In my case that is Windows7 and Linux Mint Mate on the desktop and Android on the tablet.
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  7. #97


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    Win 8.1 Pro


    Hahahah ,,,,, uhg, Android,,,,, let's get started

    Just kidding,, I agree


    I do have to add one more thing though,, then I will drop it.,.,.

    Old way is not always better.... as in....
    What is more efficient,,,
    Peeling 40 Apples by Hand, or using a hand crank Apple peeler?
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  8. #98


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    Vista and Win7


    Windows does not even figure in mobile. No need to discuss that loser.

    WW tablets

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    WW Smartphones

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  9. #99


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Hahahah ,,,,, uhg, Android,,,,, let's get started

    Just kidding,, I agree


    I do have to add one more thing though,, then I will drop it.,.,.

    Old way is not always better.... as in....
    What is more efficient,,,
    Peeling 40 Apples by Hand, or using a hand crank Apple peeler?
    Hi there

    It's not always THAT simple -- don't forget you have to

    a) Get out the Apple peeler
    b) perform the hand cranking
    c) REMOVE the skins etc - or whatever you do with it
    d) wash and CLEAN the equipment - sometimes can be a long and tedious process for some pieces of kit
    e) put it away again.

    Peeling by hand -- I just simply chuck the peel / skin out as Garden Compost - simple - and no cleaning / set up required. For some sorts of Apple Crumble too - you can leave the skins ON -- also delicious if you choose the right sort of Apples -- strangely enough the ENGLISH varieties are brilliant - even though when you go into a supermarket in England the shelves are usually full of FRENCH one's which IMO don't have anything like the same flavour. At least England exports loads of their nice flavoured apples.

    I've found in general when it comes to COOKING - the OLD fashioned ways are usually far better resulting in far better tasting food - even if the food does take longer to prepare. Also sometimes doing stuff by HAND in the Kitchen gives a certain therapeutic value to the whole process.

    Slow cooking over wood burning stoves for example can really create absolutely delicious food that probably people who visit fast food outlets will never have experienced in their life times -- but this is a Windows Forum so I'll leave further remarks on cooking elsewhere !!!.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  10. #100


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    I agree. Those 'mechanized' ways can be a real pain. I threw all my kitchen gadgets away and am back to the old ways.
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