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DDR4 Next-gen memory. Next-gen performance.

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    It's not our first Rodeo! At least a few of us old timers can remember discrete memory chips, plugged into sockets, either on a motherboard or on a RAM board. Then came simms, then DiMMS, then DDR, DDR2, DDR3 and now the RAM makers are looking to the future and DDR4.
    No big deal! We've been there before!

    By the time you or I decide to buy a new State of the Art Motherboard, with DDR4 slots, the RAM will be available, from reputable sources like Crucial (they use Micron memory chips). They don't test their ram on motherboards like we use.
    They have testing machines costing thousands of dollars. I've used such machines in the past, when I worked for a RAM Seller at computer shows. They can find faults in RAM that would never show up on any PC Motherboard.

    So not to worry..... when we're ready for DDR4, the DDR4 will be ready for us.


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  2. #12


    Yeah, I remember RAM the size of today's MBs (actually I think I have one of them in the basement) but but memory size and speed jumps and it's impact were much higher than now. Anyone seeing a difference between 1333 and 1600 MHz by naked eye is hypersensitive at best. Unless OCing I doubt average Joe will see difference with DDR2 and DDR3. Anyway, by the time it all filters down to "normal" use and become de-facto standard, at least couple of years will pass.
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  3. #13


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Yeah, I remember RAM the size of today's MBs (actually I think I have one of them in the basement) but but memory size and speed jumps and it's impact were much higher than now. Anyone seeing a difference between 1333 and 1600 MHz by naked eye is hypersensitive at best. Unless OCing I doubt average Joe will see difference with DDR2 and DDR3. Anyway, by the time it all filters down to "normal" use and become de-facto standard, at least couple of years will pass.
    I remember when "EDO" was a brand-new tech...back when ram cost $25-$50 per megabyte. I can dimly recall pre-EDO @ up to $100 per megabyte. Really puts economies of scale in the spotlight when I figure that the 8GBs of 1.6GHz DDR3 I bought last cost me $50.

    Yes, back in the "old days" we'd see 100% jumps in bus speeds when they'd go from 16Mhz to 33Mhz, or 33MHz to 66MHz, etc. Amazing to think that 1.6GHz is 1000x faster than that old 16Mhz bus, while being somewhere between 10x and 20x cheaper, too! Negative inflation is one of the things I love most about this business.
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  4. #14


    Chicago USA
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    Windows 7 Pro and Windows 8.1 Pro 32 bit and 64 bit


    I can't figure out why DDR3 RAM is so much cheaper than DDR2. I bought a 4GB stick of DDR3 for my newer netbook for $19.99 USD. I was going to give the old netbook to the grandkids after increasing the DDR2 RAM until I saw the price tag of $75+ for a 4GB stick. They will just have to get by with the 2GB that is in it. Only one slot in the computer.
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  5. #15


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoMage View Post
    It's not our first Rodeo! At least a few of us old timers can remember discrete memory chips, plugged into sockets, either on a motherboard or on a RAM board. Then came simms, then DiMMS, then DDR, DDR2, DDR3 and now the RAM makers are looking to the future and DDR4.
    No big deal! We've been there before!

    By the time you or I decide to buy a new State of the Art Motherboard, with DDR4 slots, the RAM will be available, from reputable sources like Crucial (they use Micron memory chips). They don't test their ram on motherboards like we use.
    They have testing machines costing thousands of dollars. I've used such machines in the past, when I worked for a RAM Seller at computer shows. They can find faults in RAM that would never show up on any PC Motherboard.

    So not to worry..... when we're ready for DDR4, the DDR4 will be ready for us.

    Nicely explained here!
    I agree about the ready part.

    Good to know about the testing.
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  6. #16


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    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    Is it gunna fit in ddr3 slot?
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  7. #17


    Bay Area
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    Windows 7 Home Premium x64


    Quote Originally Posted by mick823 View Post
    I can't figure out why DDR3 RAM is so much cheaper than DDR2. I bought a 4GB stick of DDR3 for my newer netbook for $19.99 USD. I was going to give the old netbook to the grandkids after increasing the DDR2 RAM until I saw the price tag of $75+ for a 4GB stick. They will just have to get by with the 2GB that is in it. Only one slot in the computer.
    No one is making it anymore. The last of it goes up as it dwindles, and those that need it want some. If they had been left with a ton, and no demand, they'd be giving it away. A Guy
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  8. #18


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by gavanid View Post
    Is it gunna fit in ddr3 slot?
    I believe not, no DDR X was compatible with it's predecessor (slot) DDR X-1 so far, so we'll just have to wait and see...
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  9. #19


    Covington, La
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    Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64BIT


    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gavanid View Post
    Is it gunna fit in ddr3 slot?
    I believe not, no DDR X was compatible with it's predecessor (slot) DDR X-1 so far, so we'll just have to wait and see...
    From what I have read DDR 4 will be 288 pins (DDR3 is 240) and limited to one module per channel. Some speculation that Haswell-E may support both DDR3 and DDR4 when it comes out.

    Jim
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  10. #20


    DDR4 memory may not find way into PCs, tablets until 2015


    Computerworld - While major memory vendors have started producing next-generation DDR4 memory, don't expect to see it in servers until late next year, and in PCs and tablets in 18 months.


    Crucial Technology's upcoming DDR4 memory board

    Until Intel and AMD begin supporting DDR4 in their processor boards, users won't be able to enjoy the benefits of the technology, which offer twice the performance, twice the base capacity (16GB) and 20% to 40% less power consumption than today's technology, according to industry analysts.
    Samsung, SK Hynix and Micron are already producing DDR4 memory boards.
    DDR4 memory may not find way into PCs, tablets until 2015 - Computerworld
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