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Windows Loses Some Users Despite the Arrival of Windows8.1

  1. #91


    Adelaide
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    The minus $98 for none is excellent. I would install Mint Mate which I like more than Ubuntu.
    Agreed.

    Linux Mint 16 MATE RC has just been released.
    It has a quick boot (~15s - 20s) and has low resource usage (~350 MB RAM, ~3.8 GB HDD space) on my PC.

    The only issue I've noticed is the main menu is slow to open the very first time you use it in a session.

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  2. #92


    USA, Idaho
    Posts : 1,062
    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    Quote Originally Posted by nguchiro View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post


    Not quite sure what you mean here.

    NOBODY is forcing you to run Windows on your computer.
    ............
    Whether you agree or not MS is a global monopoly. No I do not have a choice as Apple is too expensive and Linux will not run most of my software. I am stuck with windows. Don't get me wrong; I have been using and happily so, windows since win 95. The issue here is that MS has removed our ability of choice. It started with win 7 when we no longer could choose classic menus. MS forced us to accept changes irrespective of whether it made life more difficult. An example being the Ribbon
    interface. What will it cost MS to just give us the choice of choosing to have classic menus etc?

    I also have a question regarding Metro. I live in Africa and we pay internet by kbs used and it is expensive. I noticed that my win 8 laptop is using a lot of kbs. Although I have bypassed Metro with classic shell. Does Metro continue to run in the background?
    Virtual Box is free as is VMWare Player, thus you can run just about any OS you want other then iMac's OS X. . .VM's can be your friend. . . . . .BTW what is metro. . .
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  3. #93


    Posts : 53
    Windows 7/8


    I appreciate the replies on the Windows sleep issue. Truth be told, I'm too lazy to hit the buttons. Well, that and I get little distracted. My desktop was Windows 8. I also work from home as a developer/IT manager and have my work laptop, dual screen system setup beside it. This allows me time to play on my personal computer when there is a lull in the workday. That being said, when work gets busy I'll ignore my desktop and at the end of the workday simply walk away. Thus the "laziness" factor.

    Irregardless though, this points to something going on with Modern UI apps and the desktop that is stopping the PC from sleeping. I'm not a hater, so I'm not going to say throw out the Modern UI apps if you are running a desktop or laptop. I'm simply saying the "Metro" apps task switch/multi-task differently from desktop applications. It appears Microsoft has some sort of glitch between the two environments they need to tighten up.
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  4. #94


    Posts : 835
    Win 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by nguchiro View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post


    Not quite sure what you mean here.

    NOBODY is forcing you to run Windows on your computer.
    ............
    Whether you agree or not MS is a global monopoly. No I do not have a choice as Apple is too expensive and Linux will not run most of my software. I am stuck with windows. Don't get me wrong; I have been using and happily so, windows since win 95. The issue here is that MS has removed our ability of choice. It started with win 7 when we no longer could choose classic menus. MS forced us to accept changes irrespective of whether it made life more difficult. An example being the Ribbon
    interface. What will it cost MS to just give us the choice of choosing to have classic menus etc?

    I also have a question regarding Metro. I live in Africa and we pay internet by kbs used and it is expensive. I noticed that my win 8 laptop is using a lot of kbs. Although I have bypassed Metro with classic shell. Does Metro continue to run in the background?
    MS is not a monopoly,. which implies you have no choice, Single Payer Health Care/Socialized Medicine, that IS a monopoly.

    You do have a choice, if Apple and Linux do not work for you, You have Chrome OS, wooppss, sorry, may not work either for your needs. Can't blame the MS cause they are the only game in town when no one else is willing to put anything comparable out there.
    that is like saying Apples are a monopoly, no other fruit is allowed to be an apple, dang monopolistic Mother Nature, curse you.

    No one is stopping you or anyone else from building a New OS and getting it out there.
    If you nor anyone else is willing to build something to compete with Windows, you can't complain about it.

    As for Metro Apps, yes, many can run in the background, you may be able to stop them but going to Change PC Settings and turnign them off. But I have not search for where to turn them off at.
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  5. #95


    Posts : 120
    Windows 8.1 + StartIsBack + AeroGlass


    I don't know if Microsoft is legally a monopoly or not, and I don't care. I just know that realistically they're the only option available to about 95% of computer users.

    I still don't know why people who dislike Windows 8 are supposed to simply shut up. I defended and supported Vista back in the day because I thought that despite the initial problems it would payoff immensely for the Windows platform, as it was indeed eventually. I think I have the same right to express an opinion now that I just can't see any value at all for the user in the direction that Microsoft is headed with Windows 8.
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  6. #96


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    That is very well said.
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  7. #97


    USA, Idaho
    Posts : 1,062
    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    Quote Originally Posted by mcnulty View Post
    I don't know if Microsoft is legally a monopoly or not, and I don't care. I just know that realistically they're the only option available to about 95% of computer users.

    I still don't know why people who dislike Windows 8 are supposed to simply shut up. I defended and supported Vista back in the day because I thought that despite the initial problems it would payoff immensely for the Windows platform, as it was indeed eventually. I think I have the same right to express an opinion now that I just can't see any value at all for the user in the direction that Microsoft is headed with Windows 8.
    Where inthis thread has anyone told you to shut up, and if they had they probably got a shot across the bow. . .
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  8. #98


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Yeah right Lee. Remember the heated discussions we had during the spring - especially with the guys from down under. Nobody (with reasonable arguments) was shut down - though we lost a couple of guys that got too personal.
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  9. #99


    USA, Idaho
    Posts : 1,062
    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Yeah right Lee. Remember the heated discussions we had during the spring - especially with the guys from down under. Nobody (with reasonable arguments) was shut down - though we lost a couple of guys that got too personal.
    HI WHS wasn't talking about last spring, was talking about this thread, and nothing else. . .
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