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    New Windows 8.1 requirements strand some users on 8


    New Windows 8.1 requirements strand some users on Windows 8

    Windows 8.1 fixes many of Windows 8’s most glaring flaws, but not everyone is able to bask in the bountiful new features. Owners of some older PCs have found themselves stranded on Windows 8, trapped by a subtle tweak in Windows 8.1’s hardware requirements. And beyond the irritation factor, the issue could have troubling support implications for affected users, as Microsoft has told Windows 8 users they’ll need to upgrade to Windows 8.1 by 2015 to continue receiving critical system updates.
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    That's a pretty bad move by Microsoft changing the system requirements with the 8.1 update. If that was the requirement, then they should have made it the case from Windows 8, not do a bait and switch. Especially considering how they were shouting from the rafters about how anyone with a Windows OS dating back to XP could upgrade to Windows 8.
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    Still no support for 1024 X 600 resolution netbooks as far as modern apps go. Rumor had it that Windows 8.1 would support graphics as low as 800 X 600. The rumor was just that, a rumor. I still can't run an app without crashing the computer.
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    As noted in the article these computers will in theory run the 32 bit version, and this is borne out by a Forum member's experience here: https://www.eightforums.com/installat...ott-630-a.html

    However you'd need to use the trick to download the ISO, from a 32 bit machine (or 32 bit VM) to get this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mick823 View Post
    Still no support for 1024 X 600 resolution netbooks as far as modern apps go. Rumor had it that Windows 8.1 would support graphics as low as 800 X 600. The rumor was just that, a rumor. I still can't run an app without crashing the computer.
    They did make some resolution concessions. In 8.0 Metro Snap won't work on my non wide screen 4:3 1280x1024 LCD monitors, now it will. I can snap more than 2 metro apps on my 1080p screen too now. Maybe you'll get lucky with the 8.2 update.
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    I ran into a problem with the 8.1 and my Sonar recording studio software. It ran OK in Windows 8. After installation of the 8.1 upgrade it would not start with an "MSVCR110.DLL" error (and to reinstall the program, which would not install because of another error). I went through many searches and posts on here and the Cakewalk Sonar forum but could not find the fix. However, this did not affect all Sonar/8.1 users - only some of us.

    I finally found the fix, on the Windows 7 forum, on a thread where Photoshop users were experiencing the same problem with the "MSVCR110.DLL". There was a fix posted there for a VB update. I applied that to my 8.1 installation and it fixed it. The Sonar X3 program is a new program (released in September 2013) so its not an old program and was marketed as Windows 8 compatible and even Windows 8 touch screen compatible.

    FYI, the fix from the Win 7 forum:
    GOTO:
    Download Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2012 Update 3 from Official Microsoft Download Center

    I updated with the "VSU3\vcredist_x64.exe" file.
    Shut down / Restart / CS6 loaded with the Nik plugin intact and no errors.

    MSVCP110.dll is now in my C:\Windows\System32 folder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
    New Windows 8.1 requirements strand some users on Windows 8

    Windows 8.1 fixes many of Windows 8’s most glaring flaws, but not everyone is able to bask in the bountiful new features. Owners of some older PCs have found themselves stranded on Windows 8, trapped by a subtle tweak in Windows 8.1’s hardware requirements. And beyond the irritation factor, the issue could have troubling support implications for affected users, as Microsoft has told Windows 8 users they’ll need to upgrade to Windows 8.1 by 2015 to continue receiving critical system updates.
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    Yep, that would be me. One participant said that MS has every right to change system requirements. He's right to a point; however . . . not on an UPDATE! Call it a service pack or whatever, the fact is that (and I'm sure 90% of you will agree) when Microsoft released Windows 8, it was probably the most hated OS in history. I couldn't even figure out how to turn off the dingblasted computer after installing Windows 8!

    What ticks me off is not that the specs changed, but that they changed AFTER Windows 8 was released and Windows 8.1 is/was a requirement! If I'd been told my "older" computer wouldn't run Windows 8, I would be unhappy, but not ticked. That isn't the case and Microsoft is wrong, wrong, wrong . . .

    Thankfully though, Windows 8.1 32 bit installed and runs fine. How many folks out there who installed 64 bit Windows 8 will know that, though?

    Once more, Microsoft got it wrong, and we, its customers pay the price.
    Last edited by Wynona; 02 Nov 2013 at 10:03.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mick823 View Post
    Still no support for 1024 X 600 resolution netbooks as far as modern apps go. Rumor had it that Windows 8.1 would support graphics as low as 800 X 600. The rumor was just that, a rumor. I still can't run an app without crashing the computer.
    Yeah! Reminds me of when I was beta testing Windows 8 Starter, which MS built for Netbooks and such. Microsoft, in its ultimate wisdom, left something out that would allow owners to update/upgrade over the Internet. (If my memory accurately serves, and it's been a long time since that beta, but it was something like that.)

    Anyhoo, I argued that it just wasn't right to leave owners hanging, and for my efforts, I won a Netbook! And whatever was left out of Starter was reinstated.

    BTW, the Netbook went to my very young grandson. Talk about a happy camper!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
    New Windows 8.1 requirements strand some users on Windows 8

    Windows 8.1 fixes many of Windows 8’s most glaring flaws, but not everyone is able to bask in the bountiful new features. Owners of some older PCs have found themselves stranded on Windows 8, trapped by a subtle tweak in Windows 8.1’s hardware requirements. And beyond the irritation factor, the issue could have troubling support implications for affected users, as Microsoft has told Windows 8 users they’ll need to upgrade to Windows 8.1 by 2015 to continue receiving critical system updates.
    Source

    A Guy
    Yep, that would be me. One participant said that MS has every right to change system requirements. He's right to a point; however . . . not on an UPDATE! Call it a service pack or whatever, the fact is that (and I'm sure 90% of you will agree) when Microsoft released Windows 8, it was probably the most hated OS in history. I couldn't even figure out how to turn off the dingblasted computer after installing Windows 8!

    What ticks me off is not that the specs changed, but that they changed AFTER Windows 8 was released and Windows 8.1 is/was a requirement! If I'd been told my "older" computer wouldn't run Windows 8, I would be unhappy, but not ticked. That isn't the case and Microsoft is wrong, wrong, wrong . . .

    Thankfully though, Windows 8.1 32 bit installed and runs fine. How many folks out there who installed 64 bit Windows 8 will know that, though?

    Once more, Microsoft got it wrong, and we, its customers pay the price.
    IMHO Microsoft confused things by calling it an update. It's a full on upgrade to a new OS. The Windows Kernel version goes up to 6.3, 8 is 6.2. It's not a service pack. They should have been more open about it being a new OS version with different minimum requirements. 8 and 8.1 are so similar that people will think it is just a service pack when it isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    IMHO Microsoft confused things by calling it an update. It's a full on upgrade to a new OS. The Windows Kernel version goes up to 6.3, 8 is 6.2. It's not a service pack. They should have been more open about it being a new OS version with different minimum requirements. 8 and 8.1 are so similar that people will think it is just a service pack when it isn't.
    Which is fair enough... but Microsoft's support policy for Windows 8 treats 8.1 just as if it is a Service Pack to Windows 8, so Windows 8 goes out of support much sooner than it would if Windows 8.1 had been treated by Microsoft as a new OS.
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