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How Much Change is Too Much Change?

  1. #1


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    How Much Change is Too Much Change?


    With Windows 8 Microsoft are moving the goalposts in user interface design considerably and there has been much debate over the relative pros and cons of taking this approach. With Windows 8 though if you don’t like the new Metro touch UI then you’re out of luck switching to the ‘traditional’ desktop as well. Here the ribbon is being implemented in Windows Explorer and is being pushed throughout the operating system.

    The ribbon, first introduced in Office 2007, has split opinion and many people still dislike it if they are forced to use it or not. In fact the ribbon has been around for so long now that a great number of people who are now using it at home or at work, have decided firmly that they can’t find things, they don’t like it and that it’s not for them. This isn’t a snap judgement on the parts of these people, this is their considered view after a great deal of use.
    How Much Change is Too Much Change?

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    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    Basically since Win 95 the GUI has been the same. Yes. there is quite a difference in the look and feel, however, there is really little difference in the long run. We all know that sooner or later the GUI was/is going to move into another direction, and that may be what MS is doing with Win 8. At the present it would appear that you will still be able to revert to the old style GUI (Win 7) if that is what you prefer.

    Myself, I am looking forward to something new. It will be a challenge to see what I can do with it. Also as we all know within a year of its release (or less) someone will have figured out a way to skin the OS to bring about a look and feel that some would rather use then native GUI.
    Last edited by Lee; 23 Nov 2011 at 16:16.
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    Win8 Pro x64


    When the beta is released, I'll install it and see how things look.
    Learning something new is always fun, even if you don't like what you are learning...
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    Windows 7 x64


    I think that the change with the UI is for the best. We are at the point where we are being held back by the old UI. In 2 years people will be praising the change because of how it will improve user proformace.
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    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    I think the ribbon is great. It makes you feel at home across a variety of different programs.

    As far as the Metro goes, I reserve my judgement until I see the final product. What I have seen up to now does not seem to be of great advantage on e.g. a desktop.
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    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    The main problem at the moment is not with the Metro UI itself but the fact that there doesn't seem to be an easy way of organising the apps decently.

    For instance if you install a program for example Nero -- then all its sub obtions or menu sub levels are installed in their own metro tiles. This has two consequences -- you have to scroll a lot LEFTWARDS with the mouse -- OK no big deal but then you also have find the specifc function you want.

    You can of course create standard desktop short cuts but that goes against the design philosophy of the new GUI.

    For example

    Application 1===>suboption 1
    suboption 2
    suboption 3====>lower option1
    lower option 2===>next_level_down1

    and so on.

    all these are currently displayed in their own tiles on the metro desktop.

    I'd prefer the Main tile say for Application 1. After clicking / tapping the main tile a a small window containing tiles for the sub options and so on would pop up.


    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    Yeah, every .exe gets a tile. Even the uninstallers of programs.
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    The main problem at the moment is not with the Metro UI itself but the fact that there doesn't seem to be an easy way of organising the apps decently.
    Yeah, every .exe gets a tile. Even the uninstallers of programs.
    I also think that the main problem of Metro is the organization of tiles... but i have to admit that after almost 2 months using it i'm getting used to it.

    Another point is that based on the feedback that MS is receiving, we may expect some considerable changes in the public beta.
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    Windows 8 Developer 32 bit


    I doesn't pay to try and ram things down people's throat....especially if you want them to pay for it
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    Windows 8, x64, DP8102 - Win7 Ultimate x64, Dual Boot


    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan the SoSo View Post
    I doesn't pay to try and ram things down people's throat....especially if you want them to pay for it
    You're imagining there are other viable choices, Ivan.
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