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  1. #41


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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hewjr100 View Post
    To install with local account just disconnect ethernet cable, and turn of any type of wifi you have. That is what I did.

    Henry
    That isn't necessary - Local Account - Switch to in Windows 8
    Quote Originally Posted by Hewjr100 View Post
    Actually you can do that, it's an option just like anything else. Like I said I did it and it worked. Btw what is so hard about unplugging an ethernet cable. If you do that then there is no need to go thru all the steps suggested in the first place.
    It's not about being hard, it's about proper procedures, which I linked to. I could shut down my network to upgrade my OS. That's also not hard, but it's impractical.

    To each his own though.

    Peace

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  2. #42


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    From what I read, one can have just a local account. This is how it was performed when 8.1 was released; They sent out an update via Windows update. This placed a link in the Store to start the process. You press the link, it downloads, and installs. So therefore, yes, you may have to open the Store app to get the ball rolling. To date I've never heard of anyone getting injured or killed by opening up the Store app, so I guarantee it's safe.
    Hi Tony,
    I prefer an iso to make it easier for me to do a repair or a clean install whenever I get infected or for any other reason, if I upgrade through the Store, I may have to install Win 8 and then have to update to Win 8.1, perhaps I am being a bit lazy
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  3. #43


    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    From what I read, one can have just a local account. This is how it was performed when 8.1 was released; They sent out an update via Windows update. This placed a link in the Store to start the process. You press the link, it downloads, and installs. So therefore, yes, you may have to open the Store app to get the ball rolling. To date I've never heard of anyone getting injured or killed by opening up the Store app, so I guarantee it's safe.
    Hi Tony,
    I prefer an iso to make it easier for me to do a repair or a clean install whenever I get infected or for any other reason, if I upgrade through the Store, I may have to install Win 8 and then have to update to Win 8.1, perhaps I am being a bit lazy
    An ISO is always nice, but Windows 8 has the capability to reinstall the OS and return it to factory settings, no ISO needed. Windows 8.1 will have the same capability. But, I do prefer an ISO, just in case the Windows reinstall files gets corrupted.

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  4. #44


    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    From what I read, one can have just a local account. This is how it was performed when 8.1 was released; They sent out an update via Windows update. This placed a link in the Store to start the process. You press the link, it downloads, and installs. So therefore, yes, you may have to open the Store app to get the ball rolling. To date I've never heard of anyone getting injured or killed by opening up the Store app, so I guarantee it's safe.
    Hi Tony,
    I prefer an iso to make it easier for me to do a repair or a clean install whenever I get infected or for any other reason, if I upgrade through the Store, I may have to install Win 8 and then have to update to Win 8.1, perhaps I am being a bit lazy
    I know. I was just funning because to some it sounds to me like Modern/Metro is a disease. I don't like the upgrade idea through the Store either. I'd rather have disc, but if we don't get one, we may have to upgrade that way. Quite a sore subject with me actually. If no ISO, I'll buy the media.
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  5. #45


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    does the store allow you to download and then upgrade off line or is it an "in place" update.

    I have the TechNet iso so I can't test the system. If it does a download and allows you to upgrade later - presumably you could burn your own iso from the download.

    I dislike in principle anyway of "real time" updates -- if the installation fails then you are royally hosed up unless you have taken a backup before you start.

    Sometimes this "dumbing down" stuff with 1-click installs etc goes a bit too far --it's fine when it works but if it fails you have ZERO chance of fixing it.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. #46


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Hewjr100 View Post
    To install with local account just disconnect ethernet cable, and turn of any type of wifi you have. That is what I did.

    Henry
    That's doable if you are installing from a thumb drive or DVD. It hardly practical if your doing an online update through the Windows store though.
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  7. #47


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hewjr100 View Post
    To install with local account just disconnect ethernet cable, and turn of any type of wifi you have. That is what I did.

    Henry
    That's doable if you are installing from a thumb drive or DVD. It hardly practical if your doing an online update through the Windows store though.
    Hi there.

    what you can do in these cases is when you get the question for the sign in to the Ms account simply disconnect the Internet connection and press back button -- or if back button doesn't work or lead to a Continue with Local account option just re-boot the machine without internet connection -- the necessary OS files by this stage are already on your HDD so the system should just continue and will give you the local account option.

    Once you've got passed that step you can re-connect to the internet.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  8. #48


    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Sardonicus View Post
    An ISO is always nice, but Windows 8 has the capability to reinstall the OS and return it to factory settings, no ISO needed. Windows 8.1 will have the same capability.
    My understanding is that option (Reset) requires a Windows 8 recovery partition (which I don't have on my laptop because it was upgraded from an earlier version) or an installation ISO?
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  9. #49


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    does the store allow you to download and then upgrade off line or is it an "in place" update.
    It's an in place up grade. If they do it like Windows 8 to 8.1RP, one must go online to their site to retrieve an update via Windows Update which creates a link in the Store. Clicking on the link starts the upgrade process. Personally I tried this twice to no avail. A waste of time and effort. Eventually I downloaded the ISO and fresh installed.

    I have the TechNet iso so I can't test the system. If it does a download and allows you to upgrade later - presumably you could burn your own iso from the download.
    No, I think at first it starts to download an installer or triggers a present installer, creates a .old folder, keep system files that it will reuse, and then loads new files.

    I dislike in principle anyway of "real time" updates -- if the installation fails then you are royally hosed up unless you have taken a backup before you start.

    Sometimes this "dumbing down" stuff with 1-click installs etc goes a bit too far --it's fine when it works but if it fails you have ZERO chance of fixing it.
    "1-click installs" may be fine for the non-technical general public in theory, but most of us here know that it will most likely backfire. I think Ms should educate the general public with ISO fresh installs rather than this new Store upgrade method. Although trying to remain optimistic, I'll give it odds it'll go over like a lead balloon. We'll soon find out.
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  10. #50


    Just think all of our questions and answers will be satisfied in 24 hours, then it will be the next phase..(I told you so)

    Henry
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