99 Percent of Users Still Choose Windows 7, Toshiba Reveal

The last statement says it all.

From a business perspective, I would say 99 percent of our sales are Windows 7.

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That would seem logical at this point in time.

when I order new machines from Dell for our business they are actually surprised when I ask for Windows 8.

That should be 99 percent of BUSINESS users. That's understandable, however, since most of them only recently migrated to Windows 7 and still have a standard image. Windows 8 is still largely focused on consumers.

Windows 8 had a lot of gotchas still for enterprise customers, but 8.1 removes a lot of those. We may see more migrations, but I wouldn't count on it until at least the next revision, and maybe even Windows 9.

Mystere said:

That should be 99 percent of BUSINESS users. That's understandable, however, since most of them only recently migrated to Windows 7 and still have a standard image. Windows 8 is still largely focused on consumers.

Windows 8 had a lot of gotchas still for enterprise customers, but 8.1 removes a lot of those. We may see more migrations, but I wouldn't count on it until at least the next revision, and maybe even Windows 9.

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Not sure about this. W7 sure had more than 1% market share in businesses after the first year.

HerrKaLeun said:

Mystere said:

That should be 99 percent of BUSINESS users. That's understandable, however, since most of them only recently migrated to Windows 7 and still have a standard image. Windows 8 is still largely focused on consumers.

Windows 8 had a lot of gotchas still for enterprise customers, but 8.1 removes a lot of those. We may see more migrations, but I wouldn't count on it until at least the next revision, and maybe even Windows 9.

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Not sure about this. W7 sure had more than 1% market share in businesses after the first year.

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But look at the circumstances. People overall hated Vista, the only upgrade from XP at the time. XP doomsayers have caused a massive migration, and Win 7 pops up just in time.

Most users today use win 7. No reason to upgrade to 8 after 7, from a business perspective. Add in 8's steep learning curve, and it's an obvious choice.

Personally, my business has half 7's and half 8's, and a few XP's left.

50% + 50% + 10% = 100% ... right?

HerrKaLeun said:

Not sure about this. W7 sure had more than 1% market share in businesses after the first year.

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How do you know that?

Even if that's true, and i'm not saying it's not... the circumstances were different. Many businesses wanted off XP (many others were afraid to move from XP as well). Those that were on Vista wanted to move to 7 as well. Finally, 7 came along at just the right time, when businesses were going through their normal 3-5 year hardware refresh cycle.

In those days, a hardware refresh cycle was pretty major. Today, a PC from 5 years ago is still a pretty good PC, so long as it was decent at the time. There is less need to replace a PC from 5 years ago than there was then. And without replacing hardware, most users don't replace the OS.

There also wasn't the huge tablet and mobile influx back then either. Some estimate that as much as half of users opt for a new mobile device over a new PC.

There are a lot of factors at play.

my2cents said:

The last statement says it all.

From a business perspective, I would say 99 percent of our sales are Windows 7.

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That would seem logical at this point in time.

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Any system analyst will tell you this makes sense as it's not that easy to fully implement any new OS into an organization. There are many tings to consider, not the least being, training, integration, security, and software & hardware considerations.

Many a analyst (aka IT person) can easily loose their job, and cost a company millions, if this isn't fully investigated. So yeah, it isn't surprising businesses aren't running out the door to grab massive copies of Windows 8. It's no different when Win 7 first hit the scene, It'll probably be no different when the next OS comes along. SDLC.

Well heck, many companies only recently migrated from XP to 7. I don't think they will be quick to jump on the 8 bandwagon.

Besides, can we be honest? I don't think 8 is much of a business OS.

I don't know, had a look at Enterprise? - Windows 8 Pro vs Enterprise - What?s the Difference? - KeithMayer.com - IT Pros ROCK! - Site Home - TechNet Blogs

Hi there
For me the Must Have is the very useable Windows to Go in W8/W8.1 Enterprise. - I work in a lot of different sites and countries and it's nice being able to have a version of Office in MY language available too.

Windows 8.1 is still missing a load of those extra languages that W7 and even W8 had (they'll be available later I'm sure) but being able to boot up my own version of Office 2010 with Icelandic enabled is fine.

The Windows to go also is an EXCELLENT recovery / repair / backup tool -- It's a pity that this feature isn't available in Windows 8 pro.

Install on an external SSD - and it flies even when using a USB2 port -- in fact it works MUCH faster on a company laptop than the built in Windows 7 system on a Spinner - and Windows to go DOES give access to any internal HDD's on the computer you are running Windows top go from.

(You don't have to install on "Certified devices" --you can install MANUALLY on any external USB stick / disk).

The rest of the stuff is probably more of interest to IT admins and corporate stuff.

Cheers
jimbo

Mystere said:

HerrKaLeun said:

Not sure about this. W7 sure had more than 1% market share in businesses after the first year.

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How do you know that?

Even if that's true, and i'm not saying it's not... the circumstances were different. Many businesses wanted off XP (many others were afraid to move from XP as well). Those that were on Vista wanted to move to 7 as well. Finally, 7 came along at just the right time, when businesses were going through their normal 3-5 year hardware refresh cycle.

In those days, a hardware refresh cycle was pretty major. Today, a PC from 5 years ago is still a pretty good PC, so long as it was decent at the time. There is less need to replace a PC from 5 years ago than there was then. And without replacing hardware, most users don't replace the OS.

There also wasn't the huge tablet and mobile influx back then either. Some estimate that as much as half of users opt for a new mobile device over a new PC.

There are a lot of factors at play.

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How i know/ I read the news... more than 1% marketshare after 1 year should be easy.
i realize W7 only had vista and XP as a competition, so it was easy to sell. But if a business swithes OS today , they shoudl not use the old W7 (since it only has 7 years life left, but the new OS. Every switch is expensive, so you don't want to switch ot an old OS.

and thsi my friend shows how bad W8 is for businesses, when they rather spend money on an outdated OS with 6-7 years life left, than a new one with 10 years left.

HerrKaLeun said:

How i know/ I read the news... more than 1% marketshare after 1 year should be easy.
i realize W7 only had vista and XP as a competition, so it was easy to sell. But if a business swithes OS today , they shoudl not use the old W7 (since it only has 7 years life left, but the new OS. Every switch is expensive, so you don't want to switch ot an old OS.

and thsi my friend shows how bad W8 is for businesses, when they rather spend money on an outdated OS with 6-7 years life left, than a new one with 10 years left.

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6-7 years is a good long time. Probably 50% of those computers will be replaced before that time is up.