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  1. #81


    Quote Originally Posted by SnarkyTwit View Post
    Microsoft screwed up big time with this one! Make sure you have a backup of your Windows 7 installation before upgrading to this piece of crap. Good thing I backed up. I had years of software installed on my Windows 7 installation that was summarily wiped out by this "upgrade". I figured that when they said you have to reinstall your apps, they meant the apps from the app store. But apparently not. All of my software that I spent years accumulating was gone! I am not about to go about finding product keys and installation media for all the software that I had installed, some of which doesn't exist anymore. I had gigabytes of games installed that I would have to re-download from Steam, Origin and Blizzard again. This doesn't work well if you have a slow internet connection with download caps. As I was restoring my backup of Windows 7, I wondered why Microsoft did this. The only reason I can think of, is to drive people to their store to buy software that cannot be easily replaced by this "upgrade". I noticed that during the "upgrade" of Windows 8.1, they helpfully added a screen that said you can get apps from their app store. Nice try Microsoft, but I won't be doing that again any time soon. If I have to replace all of my software in order to upgrade, I will buy an Apple or Chromebook first, instead of your very user-unfriendly operating system.

    Snarks
    I'm confused by your post. If you had 7 and were upgrading to 8.1, what apps from the Microsoft app store would you have expected to have to reinstall. Since, Windows 7 didn't have any app store.

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  2. #82


    Quote Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by waltc View Post
    What I'll work on tomorrow will be trying to change my primary account from a Microsoft account to a local account--Microsoft seems to have made that a bit more complex than it was in 8.0, where it was fairly easy to do that, I thought.
    Yes they have and I'm trying to figure that one out too.
    Let me know if you have some luck with that... Going out for dinner so won't have much time to mess with it today...
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  3. #83


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Folks,
    Is there anyone who upgraded to 8.1 using no key or the Win8 key, is the op sys activated?

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  4. #84


    Toronto, Canada. Born in the U.K.
    Posts : 691
    Win 10 Pro + Win 7 Ult SP1 (x64)


    Quote Originally Posted by waltc View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by waltc View Post
    What I'll work on tomorrow will be trying to change my primary account from a Microsoft account to a local account--Microsoft seems to have made that a bit more complex than it was in 8.0, where it was fairly easy to do that, I thought.
    Yes they have and I'm trying to figure that one out too.
    Let me know if you have some luck with that... Going out for dinner so won't have much time to mess with it today...
    I posted that in the next post #62 Windows 8.1 RTM Released to MSDN & Technet
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  5. #85


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Folks,
    Is there anyone who upgraded to 8.1 using no key or the Win8 key, is the op sys activated?

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    It says in your screen shot that Windows is activated!
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  6. #86


    Posts : 42
    Windows 8.1 Core


    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Since I'm still using the laptop's OEM license:
    I use the 8.1 Core version, to match the one the OEM installed for 8.0.

    For this you need to make a custom ISO where you can select Core version (Pro will be also listed below). This will also skip the key prompt before install.

    About that custom ISO:

    It contains one extra file in the sources folder, that's all.

    Version selection menu:
    You don't actually need an ISO in the end if you boot from USB, just put the files on USB stick and in the sources folder, one extra file called "ei.cfg" with the following options in it:

    Code:
    [Channel]
    OEM
    
    
    [VL]
    0
    Great! Thanks. This seems to do the trick. I haven't actually gone through with full install, but at least there is no longer a key prompt. It seems as if the W8.1 defaults to a "retail" install instead of an OEM install. Furthermore, I see this on Technet:

    The edition configuration (EI.cfg) file and the product ID (PID.txt) file are optional configuration files that you can use to specify the Windows® product key and the Windows edition during Windows installation. You can use these files to automate the product-key entry page in Windows Setup instead of using an answer file. If you use an EI.cfg file to differentiate volume license media, but you do not include a PID.txt file, the user receives a prompt for a product key to continue Windows Setup.
    Even without a PID.txt file in /sources, there is no prompt. So, it could very well be that the specifically-instructed OEM install picks up the OEM BIOS key, as did the W8 ISOs. Just a theory.
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  7. #87


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


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  8. #88


    Posts : 2,627
    win8.1.1 enterprise


    Quote Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
    Yeah, I've just added it back and enabled secure boot in my bios to get rid of the watermark.

    The only problem now is the nvidia seem a little buggy, the default ones are causing my screens to have a few second blackout every now and again and the latest betas seem to crash one of my cards leaving me only 3 screens to work on, I'm sure we'll see some more drivers in the coming days.
    my ati radon 5000 , was bouncing and shaking ,with the Microsoft drivers ,downloaded catalyst drivers solver the shakes
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  9. #89


    Posts : 2,627
    win8.1.1 enterprise


    Quote Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
    I've just downloaded the final 8.1 from Technet Plus. I'm aware that I will need to reactivate Media Center using that key after I install this. Does anyone know if I will lose personalizations such as Windows Vista Mail (hacked) and similar "Windows 7" hacks?
    I use windows live mail and its gone ,I forgot to backup most recent but have backups from 2 weeks ago ,no biggie I guess
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  10. #90


    Posts : 2,627
    win8.1.1 enterprise


    Quote Originally Posted by SnarkyTwit View Post
    Microsoft screwed up big time with this one! Make sure you have a backup of your Windows 7 installation before upgrading to this piece of crap. Good thing I backed up. I had years of software installed on my Windows 7 installation that was summarily wiped out by this "upgrade". I figured that when they said you have to reinstall your apps, they meant the apps from the app store. But apparently not. All of my software that I spent years accumulating was gone! I am not about to go about finding product keys and installation media for all the software that I had installed, some of which doesn't exist anymore. I had gigabytes of games installed that I would have to re-download from Steam, Origin and Blizzard again. This doesn't work well if you have a slow internet connection with download caps. As I was restoring my backup of Windows 7, I wondered why Microsoft did this. The only reason I can think of, is to drive people to their store to buy software that cannot be easily replaced by this "upgrade". I noticed that during the "upgrade" of Windows 8.1, they helpfully added a screen that said you can get apps from their app store. Nice try Microsoft, but I won't be doing that again any time soon. If I have to replace all of my software in order to upgrade, I will buy an Apple or Chromebook first, instead of your very user-unfriendly operating system.

    Snarks
    some things are not for everyone ,
    really sad to see you lost everything ,I read we would loose all 3rd party apps when upgrading ,I just went from 8.1 preview ,I lost my windows live mail ,I didn't consider it 3rd party
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