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Windows 8.1 RTM Released to MSDN & Technet

  1. #21


    Winnipeg, Canada
    Posts : 19
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Centre RTM


    Microsoft screwed up big time with this one! Make sure you have a backup of your Windows 7 installation before upgrading to this piece of crap. Good thing I backed up. I had years of software installed on my Windows 7 installation that was summarily wiped out by this "upgrade". I figured that when they said you have to reinstall your apps, they meant the apps from the app store. But apparently not. All of my software that I spent years accumulating was gone! I am not about to go about finding product keys and installation media for all the software that I had installed, some of which doesn't exist anymore. I had gigabytes of games installed that I would have to re-download from Steam, Origin and Blizzard again. This doesn't work well if you have a slow internet connection with download caps. As I was restoring my backup of Windows 7, I wondered why Microsoft did this. The only reason I can think of, is to drive people to their store to buy software that cannot be easily replaced by this "upgrade". I noticed that during the "upgrade" of Windows 8.1, they helpfully added a screen that said you can get apps from their app store. Nice try Microsoft, but I won't be doing that again any time soon. If I have to replace all of my software in order to upgrade, I will buy an Apple or Chromebook first, instead of your very user-unfriendly operating system.

    Snarks

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  2. #22


    Tropical Island Pair a Dice
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    Windows 8.1 Pro x64/ Windows 7 Ult x64


    This is great news, D/L'ing now from TechNet.
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  3. #23


    Quote Originally Posted by SnarkyTwit View Post
    Microsoft screwed up big time with this one! Make sure you have a backup of your Windows 7 installation before upgrading to this piece of crap. Good thing I backed up. I had years of software installed on my Windows 7 installation that was summarily wiped out by this "upgrade". I figured that when they said you have to reinstall your apps, they meant the apps from the app store. But apparently not. All of my software that I spent years accumulating was gone! I am not about to go about finding product keys and installation media for all the software that I had installed, some of which doesn't exist anymore. I had gigabytes of games installed that I would have to re-download from Steam, Origin and Blizzard again. This doesn't work well if you have a slow internet connection with download caps. As I was restoring my backup of Windows 7, I wondered why Microsoft did this. The only reason I can think of, is to drive people to their store to buy software that cannot be easily replaced by this "upgrade". I noticed that during the "upgrade" of Windows 8.1, they helpfully added a screen that said you can get apps from their app store. Nice try Microsoft, but I won't be doing that again any time soon. If I have to replace all of my software in order to upgrade, I will buy an Apple or Chromebook first, instead of your very user-unfriendly operating system.

    Snarks
    Sorry to hear.... but the upgrade path for keeping apps & settings only applies to previous versions of windows 8...and yeah backup should be a regular habit IMHO particularly if you spent years accumulating apps and setting up your rig to your specific needs.
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  4. #24


    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
    All updated, so far I cant see the difference other than a watermark on my desktop saying SecureBoot isn't configured correctly (doesn't say what to do about it though )

    Oh and my Media center is gone
    I got the same watermark. Enabling Secure Boot and installing the default key under it in your UEFI settings will remove it.

    Secure Boot - Enable or Disable in UEFI
    Yep that's what I did.
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  5. #25


    Posts : 103
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
    The only problem now is the nvidia seem a little buggy, the default ones are causing my screens to have a few second blackout every now and again and the latest betas seem to crash one of my cards leaving me only 3 screens to work on, I'm sure we'll see some more drivers in the coming days.
    I had that issue too after installing the leaked version, but it only did it for a few minutes and it's been fine ever since. The only thing I did was uninstall NVIDIA update and the 3D driver - maybe there is an issue with one of those.

    I tried installing the latest beta from NVIDIA's site for 8.1, but it said that no compatible hardware was found (I run a GTX 670).
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  6. #26


    Toronto, Canada. Born in the U.K.
    Posts : 691
    Win 10 Pro + Win 7 Ult SP1 (x64)


    Upgrading an existing Windows 8 Pro w/MC - do I then have to reinstall the Pro Pack as well as the Media Center? I assume I simply do it from within Windows 8 rather than boot from the disk? Sorry to sound naive but this isn't your usual "Service Pack".
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  7. #27


    I put in on a usb stick and ran setup from within Windows 8 pro w/mc to do the upgrade, when done I had to add the media center back in by adding the key at the add features bit.
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  8. #28


    Posts : 103
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
    Upgrading an existing Windows 8 Pro w/MC - do I then have to reinstall the Pro Pack as well as the Media Center? I assume I simply do it from within Windows 8 rather than boot from the disk? Sorry to sound naive but this isn't your usual "Service Pack".
    Here's how I installed it, upgrading from Windows 8 Pro with Media Center to 8.1 using the leaked RTM (same as the official one): -

    1. Make sure you have the license key for Windows 8 Pro, the license key for the Media Center add-on, and the license key for 8.1 RTM.

    2. Burn the ISO to disc and run the setup from within Windows. Choose your relevant install option (I chose to keep all files, software and settings). Enter the license key for 8.1 RTM, not one of your legit Windows keys.

    3. Once complete, 8.1 will be installed, but not activated. If you need to install a language pack, you can do it now. I'm not sure what languages are included with the official RTM release, but the leaked one didn't have British English, so I had to install that separately.

    4. Right-click on This PC and choose Properties. You'll see that Windows isn't activated and you can click the option to activate it. Enter in your Windows 8 Pro key. In my case, I had to use the phone activation to activate it as it said my key was in use on another PC.

    5. Use the "Add a feature" option in Windows 8.1 to add the Media Center pack using your Media Center key. In my case, when I did this Windows was deactivated again as it said the key was in use on another machine, but running through the automated phone activation again sorted that out.

    6. If everything is working fine, you can use Disk Cleanup to remove the Windows.old folder that contains your old Windows 8 install if you like.
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  9. #29


    Toronto, Canada. Born in the U.K.
    Posts : 691
    Win 10 Pro + Win 7 Ult SP1 (x64)


    Quote Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
    I put in on a usb stick and ran setup from within Windows 8 pro w/mc to do the upgrade, when done I had to add the media center back in by adding the key at the add features bit.
    If I had a spare USB key I probably would do it that way. For me with lots of blank media lying around, the disk is the easier way.

    Quote Originally Posted by djsigma View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
    Upgrading an existing Windows 8 Pro w/MC - do I then have to reinstall the Pro Pack as well as the Media Center? I assume I simply do it from within Windows 8 rather than boot from the disk? Sorry to sound naive but this isn't your usual "Service Pack".
    Here's how I installed it, upgrading from Windows 8 Pro with Media Center to 8.1 using the leaked RTM (same as the official one): -

    1. Make sure you have the license key for Windows 8 Pro, the license key for the Media Center add-on, and the license key for 8.1 RTM.

    2. Burn the ISO to disc and run the setup from within Windows. Choose your relevant install option (I chose to keep all files, software and settings). Enter the license key for 8.1 RTM, not one of your legit Windows keys.

    3. Once complete, 8.1 will be installed, but not activated. If you need to install a language pack, you can do it now. I'm not sure what languages are included with the official RTM release, but the leaked one didn't have British English, so I had to install that separately.

    4. Right-click on This PC and choose Properties. You'll see that Windows isn't activated and you can click the option to activate it. Enter in your Windows 8 Pro key. In my case, I had to use the phone activation to activate it as it said my key was in use on another PC.

    5. Use the "Add a feature" option in Windows 8.1 to add the Media Center pack using your Media Center key. In my case, when I did this Windows was deactivated again as it said the key was in use on another machine, but running through the automated phone activation again sorted that out.

    6. If everything is working fine, you can use Disk Cleanup to remove the Windows.old folder that contains your old Windows 8 install if you like.
    Well with the RTM 8.1 from Technet it is actually a Pro key that I got, so I probably wont have to do the double key stunt that you had to do. I will, however, have to do the Add Features one for MC.

    I wonder if Shawn is doing another tute for this one?
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  10. #30


    Quote Originally Posted by djsigma View Post
    6. If everything is working fine, you can use Disk Cleanup to remove the Windows.old folder that contains your old Windows 8 install if you like.
    Thanks for the heads up on the windows.old folder, I hadn't even thought about that and it turned out to be nearly 6GB of wasted space
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