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    I was hoping that 8.1 would offer the option to install it as a desktop oriented OS rather than a touch based. MS seems to want everyone to transition to tablets and touch screens. I know you can customise, but customising takes time and effort that is not for the novice not for the faint hearted new users. We desktop users who use out PCs for work and not for multimedia and social networking are getting left behind. Knowing MS's record; this trend will continue.

    I fail to understand why a new OS will require third party applications to make it work the way a user wants it. I have win 8 on my laptop and win 7 on my desktop. I am trying to customise my win 8 to function like my "customised" win 7 and it is a chore to say the least. Win 8.1? No thanks! Just my opinion!

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  2. #112


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    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by floepie View Post
    Are you saying that a clean install would wipe the OEM recovery partition (which just can't be!)? Or, do you mean that an 8.1 generated USB recovery drive cannot be used to restore the copied WIMs on the USB drive from the OEM recovery partition because the WIM's are in an 8.0 specific format?
    Also
    If you Clean install a OEM manufacturer's the Recovery Partition & USB Recovery Drive are made unusable.
    You can not remake the OEM manufacturer's USB Recovery drive with Recovery Partition the option is greyed out in Windows 8.1.

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  3. #113


    Manchester CT
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    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Are these statements true?

    IF YOU FORMAT the boot drive, create new partitions, and do a clean install of Win8.1 from an .iso on a USB stick or DVD, you NEED to have a Win8.1 key.

    If you UPGRADE Win8 to Win8.1 from the Windows store, you DO NOT NEED a special Win8.1 key, just your WIn8 OEM or retail key.

    sound right?
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  4. #114


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Are these statements true?

    IF YOU FORMAT the boot drive, create new partitions, and do a clean install of Win8.1 from an .iso on a USB stick or DVD, you NEED to have a Win8.1 key.

    If you UPGRADE Win8 to Win8.1 from the Windows store, you DO NOT NEED a special Win8.1 key, just your WIn8 OEM or retail key.

    sound right?
    Yes, if you do a clean install with an unmodified RTM ISO you have to enter a Windows 8.1 key to install it. If you upgrade though the store you don't have to enter any key.
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  5. #115


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    MS seems to want everyone to transition to tablets and touch screens. I know you can customise, but customising takes time and effort that is not for the novice not for the faint hearted new users.
    Yes, you are right. It is possible to avoid much of the push to online services. It is probably only the more advanced users who would do that. MS is hoping the general public won't know any better and will will just accept the defaults and be drawn in without realising.
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    You can not remake the OEM manufacturer's USB Recovery drive with Recovery Partition the option is greyed out in Windows 8.1.
    You won't need that if you have the installation media. If you do want a copy of the recov partition for any reason, just copy the contents manually.
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  7. #117


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    MS seems to want everyone to transition to tablets and touch screens. I know you can customise, but customising takes time and effort that is not for the novice not for the faint hearted new users.
    Yes, you are right. It is possible to avoid much of the push to online services. It is probably only the more advanced users who would do that. MS is hoping the general public won't know any better and will will just accept the defaults and be drawn in without realising.
    OMG! That would be terrible! Kind of like getting sucked into a big, powerful MS black hole never being able to escape. Yikes!

    Yeah, I think MS should go back to creating their good 'ole pure Windows shell desktop PC (and server) OSs aimed at their existing customer base even though that market has been declining and only to flat line very soon. Perhaps there other divisions will take up the slack for awhile?

    Enterprise will start purchasing and deploying such new OSs as soon as they get the cash resources and/or borrowing power to do so after the worldwide recession is over. That should be anytime soon.....

    What I question also is why they spent all that money developing those Surfaces and just recently buying that cell phone division. That's hard-earned money that they could have saved! Their customers will never buy that type of stuff!

    I think they should slow down, take it easier, go back making those traditional OSs, and watch the other two conglomerates soak up all that profit generated by their nonsensical touch-centric mobile devices and services that the foolish general public consumer is buying up. It just doesn't seem like they want to sit at their desks in front of the good 'ole desktop PC anymore. They want to be up and about. I can't imagine why they would want to save so much money on those through-away consumption gadgets when they could have all that computing power just like businesses and techies use and need!

    Sometimes I sit and wonder how Microsoft ever got to be such a huge, successful corporation. Maybe it was just pure luck?
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  8. #118


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    Sometimes I sit and wonder
    Do you?
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  9. #119


    England, Northamptonshire
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    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit ; Windows Server 2012 R2 Standard


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post

    Sometimes I sit and wonder how Microsoft ever got to be such a huge, successful corporation. Maybe it was just pure luck?
    I think it started with this

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  10. #120


    Manchester CT
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    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Nah, you youn 'uns, it started with this:

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