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Why is Microsoft keeping final Windows 8.1 release secret?

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    Why is Microsoft keeping final Windows 8.1 release secret?


    For the first time in modern history, Microsoft is releasing a new Windows version that its traditional partners, developers and IT pros, won't get early access to. Why the change in policy? And will this decision backfire?

    Windows 8.1 has been released to manufacturing.

    OK, technically that’s incorrect. It’s actually been released to manufacturers, as in original equipment manufacturers, or OEMs. But it hasn’t been released to developers and IT pros, as was the case with prior Windows versions.

    The initial reaction to the official news, even from normally sympathetic quarters, was scathing.

    Why is Microsoft holding the final Windows 8.1 bits close and refusing to share them with its traditional partners?

    I don’t know, and Microsoft isn’t saying. When I asked a Microsoft spokesperson for comment, all I got back was this bland non-answer:

    "Only sharing RTM code with OEMs is really about optimizing the overall experience for our customers—putting our hardware partners in a position to prepare the variety of new and innovative devices consumers and businesses can expect later this Fall just in time for holiday. While our partners prepare their exciting new devices, we’ll stay close to them and continue to refine Windows 8.1 to ensure a quality experience at general availability for customers on October 18th. This includes commercial customers with or without volume licensing agreements, our broad partner ecosystem, subscribers to MSDN and TechNet as well as consumers."

    So what’s the reason? We’ll just have to guess. Here’s my list of possible reasons
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    Read more at: Why is Microsoft keeping the final release of Windows 8.1 secret? | ZDNet

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    If they release it to TechNet and MSDN it will be everywhere in the blink of an eye. It looks like they don't want that to happen. It's going to leak anyway, it just may take a little longer.
    I'm thinking that Bluetooth bug may have bit me in the preview release. I had issues with my wireless trackball and WIFI. My WIFI card has Bluetooth baked in it. It that's the case I really hope they have that sorted out. I don't want to have to deal with that again when 8.1 goes final.

    EDIT: It sounds like its not actually finished? They are going to tweak it until it actually goes public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    If they release it to TechNet and MSDN it will be everywhere in the blink of an eye. It looks like they don't want that to happen. It's going to leak anyway, it just may take a little longer..
    It already has LOL

    Interestingly, there are now three indices to choose from... Core Single Language, Core and Pro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    If they release it to TechNet and MSDN it will be everywhere in the blink of an eye. It looks like they don't want that to happen. It's going to leak anyway, it just may take a little longer..
    It already has LOL

    Interestingly, there are now three indices to choose from... Core Single Language, Core and Pro
    Didn't take long did it. I'm content to wait for it to show up on TechNet. If I didn't have TechNet I'd likely byte now though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    If they release it to TechNet and MSDN it will be everywhere in the blink of an eye. It looks like they don't want that to happen. It's going to leak anyway, it just may take a little longer..
    It already has LOL

    Interestingly, there are now three indices to choose from... Core Single Language, Core and Pro
    Didn't take long did it. I'm content to wait for it to show up on TechNet. If I didn't have TechNet I'd likely byte now though.
    Agreed.. just a "Preview 2" for further testing
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    [QUOTE=alphanumeric;272203]If they release it to TechNet and MSDN it will be everywhere in the blink of an eye. It looks like they don't want that to happen. It's going to leak anyway, it just may take a little longer.
    I'm thinking that Bluetooth bug may have bit me in the preview release. I had issues with my wireless trackball and WIFI. My WIFI card has Bluetooth baked in it. It that's the case I really hope they have that sorted out. I don't want to have to deal with that again when 8.1 goes final.

    As superfly says!

    But are Microsoft seriously suggesting that all the minorities connected with the finalising of OEM installations are, across the board, more trustworthy than the TechNet/msdn customers. I would suggest otherwise. The paid up customers have a lot to lose, the oem peasants are anonymous and have nothing to lose. I posed the question on the TechNet forums and am sad to say I got two inane replies (from staff members.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post

    But are Microsoft seriously suggesting that all the minorities connected with the finalising of OEM installations are, across the board, more trustworthy than the TechNet/msdn customers. I would suggest otherwise. The paid up customers have a lot to lose, the oem peasants are anonymous and have nothing to lose. I posed the question on the TechNet forums and am sad to say I got two inane replies (from staff members.)

    Abolutely true.. makes no sense that they would keep the proper ISO from the devs whilst knowing full well they rely on Store development to boost the poor performance of 8..

    Having said that there are some with multiple MSDN subs (one apparently boasted having 20!) thus the majority of fair members pay for the few unscrupulous out there..
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    They're not trying very hard .... I found the leaked 9600 Enterprise ISO in less than 15 minutes..
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    [QUOTE=Superfly;272244]
    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post

    the poor performance of 8..


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    Oh yeah? I found 8 faster than 7 and 8.1 faster than 8. My upgrade license from 7 ultimate to 8 clean install worked OK so I don't think this is unscrupulous. Perhaps but I don't want to discuss it. Certainly 8 is cheaper. 7 Ultimate cost a lot.

    EDIT
    7 Pro (OEM) to Ultimate - €135
    7 Ultimate to 8 Pro - €30
    8 Pro to 8.1 - nothing.
    Last edited by adamf; 28 Aug 2013 at 14:09. Reason: Prices
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post

    Oh yeah? I found 8 faster than 7 and 8.1 faster than 8. My upgrade license from 7 ultimate to 8 clean install worked OK so I don't think this is unscrupulous. Perhaps but I don't want to discuss it. Certainly 8 is cheaper. 7 Ultimate cost a lot.

    EDIT
    7 Pro (OEM) to Ultimate - €135
    7 Ultimate to 8 Pro - €30
    8 Pro to 8.1 - nothing.
    Seems you don't get my post at all? ..
    - poor performance of 8 in terms of user acceptance and sales..
    (I thought that would have been obvious with my correlation to the need for store app development)

    -unscrupulous as in people subscribing to MSDN in order to profit from keys provided..

    Hope this makes things clearer.
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