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Why is Microsoft keeping final Windows 8.1 release secret?

  1. #11


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    [QUOTE=adamf;272258]
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post

    the poor performance of 8..


    .
    Oh yeah? I found 8 faster than 7 and 8.1 faster than 8. My upgrade license from 7 ultimate to 8 clean install worked OK so I don't think this is unscrupulous. Perhaps but I don't want to discuss it. Certainly 8 is cheaper. 7 Ultimate cost a lot.

    EDIT
    7 Pro (OEM) to Ultimate - €135
    7 Ultimate to 8 Pro - €30
    8 Pro to 8.1 - nothing.
    Vista to Vista SP1 - nothing
    Vista SP1 to Vista SP2 - nothing
    7 to 7 SP1 - nothing


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  2. #12


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    Windows 10 Pro Prieview x64


    Ahh, no, I didn't. Sorry mate. Guess I replied before turning the old brain on. I picked the wrong part to comment on, please forget it/forgive me.

    I'll also use an ISO once I can find one if the upgrade doesn't work. I liked 8.1 though on VHD.
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  3. #13


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    Windows 10 Pro Prieview x64


    [QUOTE=pulsar68;272282]
    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post


    7 Pro (OEM) to Ultimate - 135
    7 Ultimate to 8 Pro - 30
    8 Pro to 8.1 - nothing.
    Vista to Vista SP1 - nothing
    Vista SP1 to Vista SP2 - nothing
    7 to 7 SP1 - nothing

    My point was I had to pay a lot for the English language at 7 (I bought my laptop in France) but at 8 Pro it was included. I'm not complaining - it was only an observation. Office was pretty expensive also - I just feel scared if I don't buy a license to be honest.

    Service packs are always free so I don't see your point really in respect to that.
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  4. #14


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    [QUOTE=pulsar68;272282]
    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post

    Oh yeah? I found 8 faster than 7 and 8.1 faster than 8. My upgrade license from 7 ultimate to 8 clean install worked OK so I don't think this is unscrupulous. Perhaps but I don't want to discuss it. Certainly 8 is cheaper. 7 Ultimate cost a lot.

    EDIT
    7 Pro (OEM) to Ultimate - €135
    7 Ultimate to 8 Pro - €30
    8 Pro to 8.1 - nothing.
    Vista to Vista SP1 - nothing
    Vista SP1 to Vista SP2 - nothing
    7 to 7 SP1 - nothing

    The upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1 is not a service pack though. Its an OS upgrade, the kernel version number goes up to 6.3 from 6.2. Windows 7 is 6.1.
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  5. #15


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    [QUOTE=alphanumeric;272287]
    Quote Originally Posted by pulsar68 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post

    Vista to Vista SP1 - nothing
    Vista SP1 to Vista SP2 - nothing
    7 to 7 SP1 - nothing

    The upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1 is not a service pack though. Its an OS upgrade, the kernel version number goes up to 6.3 from 6.2. Windows 7 is 6.1.
    Yes, technically is an OS upgrade but 8.1, actually, is nothing more than a SP.
    XP SP3, i.e., is a SP but the fact is that it was an OS upgrade
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  6. #16


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    Windows 10 Pro Prieview x64


    [QUOTE=alphanumeric;272287]
    Quote Originally Posted by pulsar68 View Post


    The upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1 is not a service pack though. Its an OS upgrade, the kernel version number goes up to 6.3 from 6.2. Windows 7 is 6.1.
    I'm going to upgrade for sure - I like it.

    I like to be able to boot to desktop.
    I like the new app view on the start screen.
    I like (a bit) the start screen but only when I'm not working else I'll not see it.
    That is it really.

    I'd like to clean install but we will see if it will be possible. Sorry if I was going off on a tangent here but I certainly prefer the cheaper upgrades MS seem to be doing now compared to in the past.
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  7. #17


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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    [QUOTE=pulsar68;272290]
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pulsar68 View Post

    The upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1 is not a service pack though. Its an OS upgrade, the kernel version number goes up to 6.3 from 6.2. Windows 7 is 6.1.
    Yes, technically is an OS upgrade but 8.1, actually, is nothing more than a SP.
    XP SP3, i.e., is a SP but the fact is that it was an OS upgrade
    IMHO it's more than a service pack. XP SP3 had the same kernel version as XP with no SP. Windows 2000 was NT 5.0, XP was NT 5.1, Vista was 6.0, Windows 7 was 6.1, and Windows 8 is 6.2. If it was just a service pack the kernel would stay at 6.2.
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  8. #18


    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Ahh, no, I didn't. Sorry mate. Guess I replied before turning the old brain on. I picked the wrong part to comment on, please forget it/forgive me.

    I'll also use an ISO once I can find one if the upgrade doesn't work. I liked 8.1 though on VHD.
    No prob bud
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  9. #19


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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    One of the biggest changes in Windows 8.1 is the move to a new rapid update cadence, with annual updates that introduce new features. That prospect is probably giving enterprise administrators nightmares. Its causing developers to reach for the Rolaids as well.
    Get ready for a bunch of third party vendors to start telling customers "sorry, but we don't support the latest version of Windows 8" when trouble arises from those "annual updates"

    It was already bad enough that they would be too lazy to troubleshoot their own problematic software and just blame Microsoft as a get out of jail card. Now it looks like Microsoft's new update scheme could add firepower to some of these lazy arse tech support centers
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  10. #20


    very much clearer
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