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Hurry up and wait: Why Microsoft's holding Windows 8.1

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    Hurry up and wait: Why Microsoft's holding Windows 8.1


    Computerworld - Microsoft's decision to sit on Windows 8.1 for two months after engineers wrap up work was driven by the year's biggest sales cycles, analysts said.

    On Wednesday, Microsoft announced it would release Windows 8.1, the first of what's expected to be annual updates to Windows 8, through the Windows Store on Oct. 17. The next day, retail copies of the updated operating system will hit retail, as will new Windows 8.1-powered devices from Microsoft's OEM (original equipment manufacturer) partners.
    But with a late August completion date for Windows 8.1 still on track -- what Microsoft calls RTM, for "release to manufacturing" -- some have wondered why the Redmond, Wash., developer plans to hold the update for eight or more weeks.
    The questions are justified: Microsoft has made much of its accelerated development and release schedule for Windows updates. Those updates are far more than collections of bug fixes, like the now-discarded service packs, but include improvements, enhancements, and new features and software.
    Hurry up and wait: Why Microsoft's holding Windows 8.1 - Computerworld

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    They rushed on
    out windows 8 and looked what happened. Maybe it is better to get all the kinks out then rushing it out and having another lemon
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    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    They rushed on
    out windows 8 and looked what happened. Maybe it is better to get all the kinks out then rushing it out and having another lemon
    Can you be specific? Why do you think 8 is a lemon?

    I ask this because I have 8 on all my machines and I've never had any problem at all. Runs even better than w7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    They rushed on
    out windows 8 and looked what happened. Maybe it is better to get all the kinks out then rushing it out and having another lemon
    Can you be specific? Why do you think 8 is a lemon?

    I ask this because I have 8 on all my machines and I've never had any problem at all. Runs even better than w7.
    Although the release of Windows 8 is not technically a "rush" as we had previews starting from the Developer Preview back on late 2011, there were things on Windows 8 RTM that sort of needed more work or just didn't feel finished when it was released like some of the apps and the Start screen was less customizable too. The boot to the Desktop option should have been there on Windows 8 RTM on the first place. And Surface RT, although there are those that would claim that its better than iPads or Androids tablets, which I think is credible, people wasn't ready for the price it had upon release, along with insufficient advertising methods and MS decided to keep slashing prices off of it because it wasn't selling well, obviously. MS then came up with this new strategy starting with 8.1 after realizing that 8 wasn't doing as much as they hoped and are determined to replace it immediately with 8.1. I think its a good move they tried to improve stuff on the Metro side on 8.1 but much better if they added something substantial on the Desktop part as well (other than boot to the Desktop and Start button). Here's a blog I read.

    Windows 8, one year later: 10 mistakes Microsoft made (and how they plan to fix things) | ZDNet

    Page 3 had some valid reasons that back up my statement on this post that some apps wasn't as polished as they should have been when released.

    Different people have rather different takes on this. Those who like Windows 8 just like yourself are convinced that the Windows 8 RTM version was near perfect or perfect upon release, but there are those whose preference are different or whose experience with it wasn't as pretty and I guess this happens with all operating systems that are released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertex View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    They rushed on
    out windows 8 and looked what happened. Maybe it is better to get all the kinks out then rushing it out and having another lemon
    Can you be specific? Why do you think 8 is a lemon?

    I ask this because I have 8 on all my machines and I've never had any problem at all. Runs even better than w7.
    Although the release of Windows 8 is not technically a "rush" as we had previews starting from the Developer Preview back on late 2011, there were things on Windows 8 RTM that sort of needed more work or just didn't feel finished when it was released like some of the apps and the Start screen was less customizable too. The boot to the Desktop option should have been there on Windows 8 RTM on the first place. And Surface RT, although there are those that would claim that its better than iPads or Androids tablets, which I think is credible, people wasn't ready for the price it had upon release, along with insufficient advertising methods and MS decided to keep slashing prices off of it because it wasn't selling well, obviously. MS then came up with this new strategy starting with 8.1 after realizing that 8 wasn't doing as much as they hoped and are determined to replace it immediately with 8.1. I think its a good move they tried to improve stuff on the Metro side on 8.1 but much better if they added something substantial on the Desktop part as well (other than boot to the Desktop and Start button). Here's a blog I read.

    Windows 8, one year later: 10 mistakes Microsoft made (and how they plan to fix things) | ZDNet

    Page 3 had some valid reasons that back up my statement on this post that some apps wasn't as polished as they should have been when released.

    Different people have rather different takes on this. Those who like Windows 8 just like yourself are convinced that the Windows 8 RTM version was near perfect or perfect upon release, but there are those whose preference are different or whose experience with it wasn't as pretty and I guess this happens with all operating systems that are released.
    Not what I asked. Robin claimed 8 is a lemon. I want to know specifics that makes it a lemon. And no, I don't think 8 rtm was perfect. I have criticized many aspects of 8 on many occasions on here.

    Why do you believe that 8 is either a lemon or perfect? Why does this have to be an either or scenario?
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    It's not a lemon. It's just a drastic change from what the masses have come to know and love. Microsoft, like a mad scientist messed with the formula, and the masses didn't like the new formula.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Sardonicus View Post
    It's not a lemon. It's just a drastic change from what the masses have come to know and love. Microsoft, like a mad scientist messed with the formula, and the masses didn't like the new formula.
    I know English is my 2nd language, not 1st. But I could have sworn the writer of post #2 specifically said 8 is a lemon.

    Yeah, I'm a jerk for calling out tea-party rhetoric. So, you guys can either defend him and give me specifics as to why 8 is a lemon or change the way you criticize 8 and stop using tea rhetoric to portray 8 as the cause of all evil.
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    That depends on your definition ...


    That depends on your definition of "Lemon".

    Obviously, from your previous statements, you don't consider it to be a "Lemon".

    It could be considered a "Lemon", using these criteria:
    • The public and businesses are reluctant to buy it
    • MS had to write off $900M (i.e. more than it earned, despite spending almost that much on advertising)
    • It has failed to:
      • Make significant inroads into Apple's and Google's market dominance in the mobile market
      • Boost desktop PC sales


    The only thing it has managed to do after 10 months (apart from provoking "howls of outrage") is surpass Vista's market share.

    Considering that Vista's market share has been dropping constantly since the introduction of W7 in 2009, W8 has been struggling.
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    One good example of Lemon wold be Ford Edsel, (google it if you are not old enough or don't know much about cars) but Win8 can not be put in the same basket. For one, it works and works good, aside from some people not liking the UI.
    UI is NOT OS.
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    Windows (Phone) 8 on a Lemon....
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