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  1. #41


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    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post

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    So, are you saying these folks are a valid political party and their statements are valid political statements?

    I say "NO". So, when I say your statement is tea party rhetoric, I'm referring to the over-exaggerated doomsday rhetoric to describe something.

    I was driving home from work yesterday and there was an accident on the highway so the highway I used was backed up for like 10 miles. A tea party rhetoric to describe the situation would be "the engineer who designed the highway I was using was clearly an idiot who didn't know how to design anything because he didn't account for a major crash in the middle of the highway. He probably cheated on every test he ever had in college anyway."

    That would be a tea party rhetoric. It's got nothing to do with politics. But it is tea party rhetoric nonetheless.

    Look at all the doomsday rhetoric about windows 8 on here. How are those different than the folks holding up those signs in the picture above?

    These IDIOTS have NO validity whatsoever, it is a party fuelled by innuendo, racism, sexism. They are DANGEROUS, in that they have gotten elected into positions of POWER. This needs to be severely dealt with in 2014. A Public Servant has to be BETTER than me. They cannot be PETTY, they need to be able to do their JOBS. They have created 500 plus conspiracies and told us that Obama is involved in each one and have gotten millions of people top BELIEVE them, where there is not a SHRED of evidence and in fact these things do not even exist. They never happened.

    For one thing, *I* never got any free cell phones from Obama, Not to mention the Lifeline Program that these pricks go on and on about, is something that happened under Reagan. If you SHOW them the Lifeline Website that clearly defines what the program does, well, facts just do not exist for these F----s.

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  2. #42


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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    That logic has about the same validity in saying that in spite of INCREASING sales of Camper Wagons and "Winnebago" type vehicles the sales of Solar Powered Can openers hasn't risen at all -- and we all know how owners of these types of vehicles use every excuse in the book to show how independent they are from relying on anybody else for their supplies.
    So you travel across the countryside in a "Solar Powered Can Opener" and open cans using a "Camper Wagon"?

    The trouble with your "Camper Wagons vs Solar Powered Can Openers" analogy, is the two things have completely unrelated functions.

    People can access the Internet via desktops/laptops, phones and tablets (i.e. these devices have overlapping functionality).

    The number of people accessing the Internet via:
    • Mobile devices is increasing
    • Desktops/laptops is static or declining

    Sales of:
    • Mobile devices are increasing
    • Desktops/laptops are declining

    According to you, these two things are completely unrelated?

    W8 has not arrested the decline in desktop sales.
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    That said, I think it is unfair to say W8 caused sales to drop.
    IMO, it would be fair to say that W8 did not boost desktop and laptop sales.
    Hi there.

    You are only "Half right" - in that the essence of the thread was that it is W8 that is causing the drop in Home PC's -- this is CLEARLY NOT the case - it's obviously the increasing convenience and use of mobile devices for casual communication and Internet browsing. If you are in a busy bar and need to say check the times of the local buses it's far simpler to use a mobile phone than get out a laptop.

    Declining PC sales though DOES NOT MEAN the PC is dead --far from it --it's just that the market has now matured and volumes will essentially be very much smaller than in during years of growth when the PC was the only game in town (no smart phones / tablets around) and hardware was not as good. Even now if you buy a PC - how many people really need the power of an I7 processor in it.

    We will eventually when more sophisticated hardware appears for producing genuine VR experience or proper holographic displays but for email / excel etc or even photoshop it's probably true to say that the PC in its present form has reached the end of its evolutionary road and we are in that period between the end of one type of equipment while waiting for the next generation to appear.

    There will be some glitches on the way --such as with 3-D in the movie theatres --strangely enough I'm surprised that this technology hasn't appeared on computers yet in any large volume --I'd much rather have 3-D technology than Touch any day --even if you do have to wear those stupid glasses --but that will change too.

    Cheers
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  3. #43


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    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    I used to have Windows 8 Pro with Media Center.

    Now I have Windows 8 Pro with Media Center Version 84.

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    Microsoft should call Windows 8.1 the same.

    Maybe Version 85 or whatever.

    Just my thoughts on the matter.
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  4. #44


    Posts : 279
    64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post

    Attachment 26432Attachment 26433

    So, are you saying these folks are a valid political party and their statements are valid political statements?

    I say "NO". So, when I say your statement is tea party rhetoric, I'm referring to the over-exaggerated doomsday rhetoric to describe something.

    I was driving home from work yesterday and there was an accident on the highway so the highway I used was backed up for like 10 miles. A tea party rhetoric to describe the situation would be "the engineer who designed the highway I was using was clearly an idiot who didn't know how to design anything because he didn't account for a major crash in the middle of the highway. He probably cheated on every test he ever had in college anyway."

    That would be a tea party rhetoric. It's got nothing to do with politics. But it is tea party rhetoric nonetheless.

    Look at all the doomsday rhetoric about windows 8 on here. How are those different than the folks holding up those signs in the picture above?

    These IDIOTS have NO validity whatsoever, it is a party fuelled by innuendo, racism, sexism. They are DANGEROUS, in that they have gotten elected into positions of POWER. This needs to be severely dealt with in 2014. A Public Servant has to be BETTER than me. They cannot be PETTY, they need to be able to do their JOBS. They have created 500 plus conspiracies and told us that Obama is involved in each one and have gotten millions of people top BELIEVE them, where there is not a SHRED of evidence and in fact these things do not even exist. They never happened.

    For one thing, *I* never got any free cell phones from Obama, Not to mention the Lifeline Program that these pricks go on and on about, is something that happened under Reagan. If you SHOW them the Lifeline Website that clearly defines what the program does, well, facts just do not exist for these F----s.
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    Thank you - a warning was needed.
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  6. #46


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    Umm ...


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Declining PC sales though DOES NOT MEAN the PC is dead --far from it --it's just that the market has now matured and volumes will essentially be very much smaller than in during years of growth when the PC was the only game in town (no smart phones / tablets around) and hardware was not as good.
    I'm not arguing that desktop/laptop PCs are dead.
    There's no way I'll be replacing my desktop with a phone or tablet.

    I have previously argued that exact point.
    The desktop PC market is saturated and since PCs are fairly reliable, the majority of sales are replacements (and not many of those are required in any given year).

    I personally suspect that desktop PCs will be around long after tablets have gone back into their traditional niche (i.e. glorified clipboards).

    How are tablets going to cope with so-called 4k graphics?
    Their batteries will go flat within minutes.

    Note:
    I don't consider eBook Readers to be tablets.
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  7. #47


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Declining PC sales though DOES NOT MEAN the PC is dead --far from it --it's just that the market has now matured and volumes will essentially be very much smaller than in during years of growth when the PC was the only game in town (no smart phones / tablets around) and hardware was not as good.
    I'm not arguing that desktop/laptop PCs are dead.
    There's no way I'll be replacing my desktop with a phone or tablet.

    I have previously argued that exact point.
    The desktop PC market is saturated and since PCs are fairly reliable, the majority of sales are replacements (and not many of those are required in any given year).

    I personally suspect that desktop PCs will be around long after tablets have gone back into their traditional niche (i.e. glorified clipboards).

    How are tablets going to cope with so-called 4k graphics?
    Their batteries will go flat within minutes.

    Note:
    I don't consider eBook Readers to be tablets.
    How are tablets going to cope with so-called 4k graphics? The same way that cell phones used to be the size of a backpack and weighed 30 pounds. I dare you to look at me with a straight face and say that technology will never ever advance to a point where it will be possible to have 4k graphics in a device the size of a tablet and still have 10hr+ battery life.

    Perhaps they should have closed down the patent office back in 1899?
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  8. #48


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tews View Post

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    Sorry, he mentioned Tea Farty and my eyes ran red with blood.
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  9. #49


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    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    I used to have Windows 8 Pro with Media Center.

    Now I have Windows 8 Pro with Media Center Version 84.

    Click image for larger version

    Microsoft should call Windows 8.1 the same.

    Maybe Version 85 or whatever.

    Just my thoughts on the matter.
    You Mean, with 84 updates. The next time I install it, I won't install any updates and see how long it runs.

    I only have 77 updates because I vehemently oppose installing updates with the word "Security" on them unless they are a dot net update.
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  10. #50


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    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tews View Post

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    Discussion of politics,guns or religion is not allowed.

    Sorry, he mentioned Tea Farty and my eyes ran red with blood.
    That's the reason why these topics are not allowed...
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