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Users tell Microsoft: We hate Windows 8 touchscreen PCs

  1. #91


    Wait just a sec !!
    "It has nothing to do with options of mouse/keyboard or people being forced ... but the need to have a touch screen on your computer to be able to use a touch OS. "
    Am I supposed to use a touch screen without a touch OS ???How ?.
    Actually I used something like that in school, it was called Blackboard and Slate.I guess my teacher was an OS, she made me write all kinds of stuff on it.

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  2. #92


    Posts : 120
    Windows 8.1 + StartIsBack + AeroGlass


    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    There is a built in voice to text function. Are you going to argue that MS is holding a gun to your head and force you to use voice to text instead of the keyboard?

    There is a built in UI for blind people. Are you going to argue that MS is holding a gun to your head and you have to use your PC like a blind person?
    Those are actually very good points! Of course, the only problem is that they're not supporting your arguments. If Metro was completely optional and I didn't have to see it unless I wanted to, the same way that I don't to deal with the "blind UI" unless I specifically want to, no one would be complaining.
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  3. #93


    +1 Hopachi.

    Nitpicking aside, the vast majority do not even plan on getting touch...

    Some more info

    Do you use Windows 8 on a touch screen device?
    • No -- I use a keyboard and mouse (70%, 475 Votes)
    • Yes -- I have a touch-enabled PC (including hybrids) (12%, 81 Votes)
    • Yes -- I have a Windows 8 tablet (11%, 78 Votes)
    • No -- But I plan on getting a touch-enabled device soon (7%, 49 Votes)

    Total Voters: 683


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  4. #94


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Good to be on this thread, once in 6 pages...
    This touch screen yes-no discussion continues in loops. Short Resume: You either use it or you don't.

    What can I say,
    Yeah, touch is 'bad' because of the price tag... or was it greasy screens...

    Click image for larger version


    Just wash you hands more often.
    Clean the damn screen more often... or use a mouse that gets dirty.

    And don't expect screens that clean themselves (yet). It will just increase the already high laziness level.


    There will always be another new problem following a solved one.
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  5. #95


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    I tried the touchscreen of the Surface Pro in a store once.

    The thing is: you need pretty (unreal) small fingers on a full hd screen even at medium 120dpi or large 144dpi.
    You'll get along quite well in Metro but eventually you'll have 'touch' issues on the desktop (right click / menu options).

    The average user wouldn't see a thing on normal 96dpi (10-inch kills @1920x1080).

    This applies for bigger screes as well because today's resolutions go bigger and bigger and will make them unsuitable for touchscreens without the higher dpi modes. Good thing the DPI (normally) gets set properly on newer devices when needed.

    I've seen how Win95 - XP looks like by default on 1080p and up to 4k: too much empty space and small buttons. Compared with newer OSes like Win7 and 8: these latest ones got bigger GUI elements:
    - Win 95, even XP was pretty usable at 640x480 (small but you could distinguish open windows) try it on 7 and 8: way bigger title bars and borders fill all screen, no way to fit that but those newer OSes looks more friendly on larger resolutions.

    Same for touch: if the screen is intended to be touched with a finger then you'll need to crank up the dpi by default otherwise you would miss-click a lot of the (smaller than the finger) buttons. Text does look better on higher dpi even on classic computers.

    I'm just trying to point out that one resolution on keyboard and mouse means something else on touch. Be prepared to loose screen space for text/image quality and accept it if you like the new devices.
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  6. #96


    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Good to be on this thread, once in 6 pages...
    Ain't that the truth...
    This touch screen yes-no discussion continues in loops. Short Resume: You either use it or you don't.
    And it's not like that MS invented the touch screen, other platforms had been using touch screen for awhile...
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  7. #97


    Posts : 299
    win 7 home premium 64 bit


    With Windows 8, essentially M$ is badgering you, if not forcing you to use touch, because they required that on each boot the OS would bring up Metro UI not the desktop UI, and while you can use Metro with the keyboard and mouse it is not a comfortable combination for the MAJORITY of users.

    M$ at least is admitting that customers do NOT want to use Metro with the keyboard and mouse by allowing users in 8.1 to boot into the desktop as the default start up GUI.


    Of course M$ is looking like they are doing other annoying things in 8.1, like remove safe mode boot with a tap of an F key. Which is nothing short of LUDICROUS!
    So when you get a virus that totally prevents any normal boot into Windows 8.1 what the hell are you supposed to do?
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  8. #98


    Posts : 279
    64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro


    Of course M$ is looking like they are doing other annoying things in 8.1, like remove safe mode boot with a tap of an F key. Which is nothing short of LUDICROUS!
    So when you get a virus that totally prevents any normal boot into Windows 8.1 what the hell are you supposed to do?
    Use Boot UI Tuner ... You can boot to the Advanced boot settings, which includes booting into safe mode...

    WinAero: Boot UI Tuner
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  9. #99


    Posts : 299
    win 7 home premium 64 bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Tews View Post
    Of course M$ is looking like they are doing other annoying things in 8.1, like remove safe mode boot with a tap of an F key. Which is nothing short of LUDICROUS!
    So when you get a virus that totally prevents any normal boot into Windows 8.1 what the hell are you supposed to do?
    Use Boot UI Tuner ... You can boot to the Advanced boot settings, which includes booting into safe mode...

    WinAero: Boot UI Tuner
    Thanks for the suggestion Tews!

    However, what I should have mentioned is that I would PREFER NOT to use 3rd party programs to perform such critical actions. Same thing goes for having to use Start 8 or something similar to get the perfectly fine traditional start menu that was in Windows 7.
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  10. #100


    Posts : 279
    64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro


    I understand what your saying, but try it out, I think you'll like it.
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