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Will the lack of good Windows 8 apps kill Windows tablets?

  1. #11


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    Well, I still think Droids suck eggs, and are ripoffs of iPhones, but they now have 80% of the market. Why not? They are thousands of times cheaper that iPhones. But I am just not impressed with Droid, never have been.

    iPads have windows 8 over a barrel with the sheer amount of quality apps. The reason why Droids have survived is because the developer saw a secondary market - And started making Droid apps as quick as they could. SO now, anything you can get for iOS, you can get for Droid.

    But the same devs, have not seen Windows 8 as a tertiary market. They have simply refused to start making the apps for Windows 8. So they don't exist, not to mention the Windows 8 store as well has being horribly laid out, has a VERY bad search engine. Give me the iPhones App Store for quickly locating the stuff I need. Not to mention the Genius bar that finds apps I could use and the suggestions are useful - For instance I just found a remote mouse for Windows 8, with a Charms bar and everything - And it was FREE:

    http://www.benzle.com

    BUT - You can install Windows 8 on a Surface Pro, which is Microsoft's "iPad". To have a desktop system in a TABLET is highly provocative. It's just too bad that the windows store will never amount to much. By now, there should be a few really good apps - And Angry Birds. is still the only decent app in the store. The Droid market filled up QUICK. The iOS store had good usable apps Immediately. Nobody really wants to make good 8 apps. and if they do, how will we ever find them?
    Um... you joking? You think angry bird is a quality app?

    What about apps like mobile scanner? What do you define as quality apps?

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  2. #12


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Quote Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
    I am a little confused about the store having a very bad search engine - I've found win+Q (or using the search charm on my tablet when not using the keyboard) to be sufficient, but perhaps you mean something else specifically? The 8.1 store does have a better layout, so that might make searching a little (or a lot) better. I'm assuming you mean something specific to the way it searches, I don't want to make assumptions.
    Hahahahaha! You think the Windows 8 Store is laid out better than the Apple Apps store or the Droid store? And as much as I have a severe distaste for DROIDS I do use them sometimes and I HAVE used their store and it';s 500 times easier to use than the Windows 8 store. Maybe they improved it a little in 8.1 but I have decided, I'm not updating to 8.1 - I like 8 the way it is, I don't really use the store.

    As far as the store in 8, it has to be pretty much the same content as the 8.1 store - When I type in VLC for instance, it returns all kinds of fakes. When I type "Word" the same thing. But when I type "OneNote" - the FAKES are shown in the list before the actual Microsoft app.

    If you know the exact name of a windows 8 app, and type iot in to the store, you will be shown a whole bunch of results that have nothing to do with what you typed in.

    Now, I HAVE had this happen in the Apple App Store, but not as much as it happens in Windows 8 - Actually what I type in always shows me results in Apple - Results I can use.


    Actually I just typed in VLC into the Apple store -And there is a brand new VLC for iOS. When I just did the same thing in Windows 8 - It's all paid fakes!
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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    Try searching for something like "Facebook" and tell me which is a genuine Facebook app? Or which of them are any good...?

    (I'm using 8; it's possible the 8.1 revamp has made this better)
    NONE of them - There are NO valid Facebook Apps in there, None are made BY facebook, and I refuse to use a FB app that's 3rd party.
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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post

    Um... you joking? You think angry bird is a quality app?

    What about apps like mobile scanner? What do you define as quality apps?
    It IS - I have Angry Birds Space and Angry Birds Star Wars - Both GOOD game engines, good graphics, good sounds, and good controls. It works exactly the same as it works on my iPhone - THAT makes it a QUALITY app.

    I found NO app named "Mobile Scanner" - Just "Mobile Document Scanner" - I can't use that on my PC. Actually that's all there was, Mobile Document Scanner - The reason why I'll never use crap apps like that? They do not scan an image and SAVE it on your device or PC - They UPLOAD it. Like hell!
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    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
    I am a little confused about the store having a very bad search engine - I've found win+Q (or using the search charm on my tablet when not using the keyboard) to be sufficient, but perhaps you mean something else specifically? The 8.1 store does have a better layout, so that might make searching a little (or a lot) better. I'm assuming you mean something specific to the way it searches, I don't want to make assumptions.
    Hahahahaha! You think the Windows 8 Store is laid out better than the Apple Apps store or the Droid store? And as much as I have a severe distaste for DROIDS I do use them sometimes and I HAVE used their store and it';s 500 times easier to use than the Windows 8 store. Maybe they improved it a little in 8.1 but I have decided, I'm not updating to 8.1 - I like 8 the way it is, I don't really use the store.

    As far as the store in 8, it has to be pretty much the same content as the 8.1 store - When I type in VLC for instance, it returns all kinds of fakes. When I type "Word" the same thing. But when I type "OneNote" - the FAKES are shown in the list before the actual Microsoft app.

    If you know the exact name of a windows 8 app, and type iot in to the store, you will be shown a whole bunch of results that have nothing to do with what you typed in.

    Now, I HAVE had this happen in the Apple App Store, but not as much as it happens in Windows 8 - Actually what I type in always shows me results in Apple - Results I can use.


    Actually I just typed in VLC into the Apple store -And there is a brand new VLC for iOS. When I just did the same thing in Windows 8 - It's all paid fakes!
    VLC is busy making their app and it's about to be released. FB will be here soon too. I don't care either way because I have the web version and VLC in desktop. But, I can see why an RT user would need VLC. Facebook... not so much. I prefer the web version.
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  6. #16


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post

    Um... you joking? You think angry bird is a quality app?

    What about apps like mobile scanner? What do you define as quality apps?
    It IS - I have Angry Birds Space and Angry Birds Star Wars - Both GOOD game engines, good graphics, good sounds, and good controls. It works exactly the same as it works on my iPhone - THAT makes it a QUALITY app.

    I found NO app named "Mobile Scanner" - Just "Mobile Document Scanner" - I can't use that on my PC. Actually that's all there was, Mobile Document Scanner - The reason why I'll never use crap apps like that? They do not scan an image and SAVE it on your device or PC - They UPLOAD it. Like hell!
    Upload it? Don't know what planet you live on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    Try searching for something like "Facebook" and tell me which is a genuine Facebook app? Or which of them are any good...?

    (I'm using 8; it's possible the 8.1 revamp has made this better)
    NONE of them - There are NO valid Facebook Apps in there, None are made BY facebook, and I refuse to use a FB app that's 3rd party.
    I suspected that would be the case. But you can't tell that from the Store Search which I agree is really not good. It was a fun exercise to try it though.
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    Hi there
    99.9999% Of those stupid "appy" things (or should they really be called "apey") things are just

    a) JUNK and

    b) Vehicles for disseminating unwanted commercials -- we are bombarded with these enough already -- seems every time I swap channels on a TV there's commercials --I've seen commercials now after 7 mins into a program --I'm sure a few years ago you got at least 25 mins of program before a break (Outside the USA of course) and there was a restriction as to how many minutes of commercial breaks were allowed in an hour. Nowadays a 35 min program takes ONE HOUR !!!!.

    There are very few decent FREE one's and there's absolutely no QC on android - so it's touch and go whether a release of the Android OS itself will kill your app from working - and usually a lot of these apps are done by individuals on a whim so often an update is either WORSE than the previous version or won't work at all. Also you can't rely on any fixes being forthcoming in any timely matter at all.

    Windows phones and tablets could make this stuff a lot better by insisting on some decent QC before allowing any old rubbish into the store --but there again due to the nature of windows is it really feasible to prevent applications from being installed unless they come from the store -- and you don't want to kill the individual entrepreneurial spirit by bogging down developers with endless large company Change control and QC stuff.

    So on the one hand perhaps we have to put up with a bit of "Wild West" and just let the whole thing sort it self out by natural evolution.

    What Windows DOES have is a sensible security system - which android apps don't have so maybe an advantage to windows when it comes to making more and more financial transactions via mobile phone.

    (I'm sure organised crime has definitely looked at the possibilities with the Android system).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  9. #19


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    A lack of good Windows Phones apps, until this year, didn't kill Windows Phone so the answer is no. A year after the first Android tablets hit the market there were less than 20 tablets apps, they were running phone apps stretched across the screen which looked like crap.
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  10. #20


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post

    Upload it? Don't know what planet you live on.
    That's what those apps DO. I can't see how that program would benefit any user on a PC. If it works on your envy thing, fine. But most PC users will never have any use for anything like that. Therefore, Angry Birds so far is the best Windows 8 app there is.
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