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  1. #21


    So true Hopachi,...why stick with old 16-bit assembly when you have the power of 64-bit C (albeit not native C)? the advantages and possibilities to create security and other features over legacy systems are immense ... makes total sense.

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  2. #22


    Covington, La
    Posts : 1,184
    Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64BIT


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tst View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post





    Hi there
    @SIW2 -- your wishes have been answered -- W8 is DEAD and BURIED.

    Windows 8.1 is far better and W8 will STOP receiving updates once W8.1 releases to final --and it IS a FREE update.



    Cheers
    jimbo
    No, it's not. It'll be supported for another two years.
    I have a feeling that M$ will be changing the policy on that for Window 8.
    According to MS the 2 year support policy will apply. They have been doing this for years with the issue of SP's and will continue to do so to satisfy the corporate customers.

    Jim
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  3. #23


    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post

    According to MS the 2 year support policy will apply. They have been doing this for years with the issue of SP's and will continue to do so to satisfy the corporate customers.

    Jim
    M$ does not call 8.1 an SP but a new OS and M$ it is there way or the high way.
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  4. #24


    Covington, La
    Posts : 1,184
    Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64BIT


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post

    According to MS the 2 year support policy will apply. They have been doing this for years with the issue of SP's and will continue to do so to satisfy the corporate customers.

    Jim
    M$ does not call 8.1 an SP but a new OS and M$ it is there way or the high way.
    But MS has stated it is treated like a SP and the 2 year rule applies. So if you don't want to update to 8.1 you have 2 years of support for 8 after 8.1 GA.

    Jim
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  5. #25


    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post

    According to MS the 2 year support policy will apply. They have been doing this for years with the issue of SP's and will continue to do so to satisfy the corporate customers.

    Jim
    M$ does not call 8.1 an SP but a new OS and M$ it is there way or the high way.
    But MS has stated it is treated like a SP and the 2 year rule applies. So if you don't want to update to 8.1 you have 2 years of support for 8 after 8.1 GA.

    Jim
    I hope so but with M$ acting the way they are you never know.
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  6. #26


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    No IE 11 for 8 though. 7 and 8.1 get it but not 8. No powershell 4 either. You'll likely get security updates but that's about it. I could have sworn it was posted in another thread that Microsoft was going to stop updating 8 once 8.1 came out, but can't find that thread.
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  7. #27


    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I could have sworn it was posted in another thread that Microsoft was going to stop updating 8 once 8.1 came out, but can't find that thread.
    Yes you're right.

    The thread was called "Microsoft mandates Windows 8.1 upgrade" - I don't know why it was deleted. (?)

    It even still comes up if I search for it, but then I get an error saying I don't have permission.

    Anyway the source was this Microsoft blog post here:
    Windows 8.1 Enterprise Preview Now Available
    Windows 8 customers will have two years to move to Windows 8.1 after the General Availability of the Windows 8.1 update to continue to remain supported under Windows 8 lifecycle. With the availability of Windows 8.1 Enterprise Preview, it is time to start planning your deployment - and there are deployment tools and guidance available to help make these updates seamless for customers.
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  8. #28


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    A lot of people buy new PC's and Laptops, which come with special applications from the OEM's. So, the first thing they try is downgrading it to 7. Suddenly all of the special Fn keys no longer work, and there are no Windows 7 drivers or programs for those functions. Not to mention special Power Saving apps and Controls that come with 8, and then there is UEFI. It's the same trick they pulled with Vista to try to force people to stick with something they do not want, because they CAN't remove that stuff and get support for a prior OS. Vista PCs could not be downgraded to XP. Windows 8 PC's and laptops are hard pressed to downgrade to 7.

    With Vista, people using Vista upgraded to 7 immediately, and all of those Fn controls worked. So unless 8.1 is more suited to what people want, they wont have this option to upgrade to a better OS like we had with Vista. and most of us know that 8.1 is NOT going to accommodate our wishes, so people will continue to downgrade systems to 7 and just live with the lack of special functions, camera drivers, etc.
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  9. #29


    Hafnarfjörđur IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there.

    I DEFINITELY saw the Ms issue on the fact that there would be NO updates for W8 once W8.1 came out -- I did think it a bit strange as IE11 is IMO still a long way off from being fit for purpose for productive or even casual use and there is no IE10 support for W8.1 either now or planned.

    Also seems a bit strange when laptops / PC's are being sold with what will be essentially a DEAD OS. (Don't make a mistake of thinking nobody is buying computer any more -- they STILL are -- even though of course in nothing like the volumes they used to).

    At least VISTA machines were sold with a FREE W7 upgrade before W7 was released -- I haven't heard of any policy issued with the machines that W8.1 is being released shortly and you will qualify for a free W8.1 upgrade.

    We know of course but the majority of people who buy computers don't (unfortunately) use the forums so they won't know.

    Also we don't know about users wanting to change from W7 -- will they be able to go straight from W7 to W8.1 or do they have to go via W8.

    What a Marketing disaster this whole thing is turning out to be - even if W8.1 looks likely to be more successful than W8 in nearly every way.

    I don't know whose in charge of Marketing at Ms these days -- I get the feeling they couldn't organise a booze up in a Brewery or even a Prayer meeting in the Vatican.

    To Ms -- a very old rule is : When you are in a hole STOP DIGGING !!.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  10. #30


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I could have sworn it was posted in another thread that Microsoft was going to stop updating 8 once 8.1 came out, but can't find that thread.
    Yes you're right.

    The thread was called "Microsoft mandates Windows 8.1 upgrade" - I don't know why it was deleted. (?)

    It even still comes up if I search for it, but then I get an error saying I don't have permission.

    Anyway the source was this Microsoft blog post here:
    Windows 8.1 Enterprise Preview Now Available
    Windows 8 customers will have two years to move to Windows 8.1 after the General Availability of the Windows 8.1 update to continue to remain supported under Windows 8 lifecycle. With the availability of Windows 8.1 Enterprise Preview, it is time to start planning your deployment - and there are deployment tools and guidance available to help make these updates seamless for customers.
    There was also an IE11 thread here in the news where the same questions were posted.
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