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One in Three Windows 8 Users Downgrade to Windows 7

  1. #11


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    Win 7 Pro x64


    Switching from 8 to 7 is a downgrade? There are many who would argue its the opposite. A laptop I purchased 5 years ago came with Vista. I ran XP on it until 7 came out and made the switch. Vista never had a minute of run time.

    When Vista came out people joked that keeping XP was an upgrade. In many peoples minds keeping 7 over 8 is an upgrade.

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  2. #12


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    I expect classic shell etc have saved 8 from an even worse fate.

    If those 3rd party shell programs didn't exist, the returns of 8 machines would likely be much greater.



    Quote Originally Posted by snoop101 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    In fact, every single person I know personally has done this.
    Never thought of this. I know personally around 10 people with Windows 8, and all of them use a start menu replacement. I have never personally seen someone successfully function within the stock windows 8 UI. I had one friend, who apparently tried to use Metro, end up taking the computer back because of windows 8. He got a Mac all in one.
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  3. #13


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I expect classic shell etc have saved 8 from an even worse fate.

    If those 3rd party shell programs didn't exist, the returns of 8 machines would likely be much greater.



    Quote Originally Posted by snoop101 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    In fact, every single person I know personally has done this.
    Never thought of this. I know personally around 10 people with Windows 8, and all of them use a start menu replacement. I have never personally seen someone successfully function within the stock windows 8 UI. I had one friend, who apparently tried to use Metro, end up taking the computer back because of windows 8. He got a Mac all in one.


    Hi there
    @SIW2 -- your wishes have been answered -- W8 is DEAD and BURIED.

    Windows 8.1 is far better and W8 will STOP receiving updates once W8.1 releases to final --and it IS a FREE update.

    Still some things wrong with it (especially IE11) but it is in BETA and it IS a 1000% improvement on W8 -- even if only for boot direct to desktop.

    W8 probably had the smallest life time of any W8 OS -- even Windows 1.1 or the ill fated Windows/286. Remember that one !!!!.

    Anyway you've got your wish -- now go and have a few beers. !!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. #14


    There's some W8 "feature" that remains in W8.1 that I don't like, namely, integrating Bing search into the "search charm". While the Bing online search can be customized, such as disabling it; however, the customization does not stop sending the search query and possibly the results to Bing. It's hard to know since the communication is encrypted by TLS version 1.2. Disabling the online search just hides the results from the end user.

    I couldn't find a way to remove the online search integration with the search charm, maybe someone else knows how to. The most obvious way to prevent the the online search is not to use the search charm. Alternatively, block access to the DNS name and/or IP on the broadband router, or firewall.
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  5. #15


    Quote Originally Posted by acr731 View Post
    Switching from 8 to 7 is a downgrade? There are many who would argue its the opposite. A laptop I purchased 5 years ago came with Vista. I ran XP on it until 7 came out and made the switch. Vista never had a minute of run time.

    When Vista came out people joked that keeping XP was an upgrade. In many peoples minds keeping 7 over 8 is an upgrade.
    I had Vista on my Dell D630 for for 5-6 years and it wasn't much different from W7 and was not updated. About a month ego W8.1 had replaced Vista and that's what's going to stay on it when the W8.1 RTM is available.

    For me, W8.1 will be more suitable for my needs on this laptop and I don't mind the Metro interface at all. Having a Windows 7.5 smartphone probably helps; both the W8.1 and Windows phone 7.5 can easily be customized for my liking.
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  6. #16


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    Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9


    I do not fully understand why new machines shipped with Windows 8 have UEFI. I know its supposed to help protect you from malware but its also a hindrance when installing other operating systems. I also do not understand why very useful features like Safe Boot are harder access on Windows 8.

    Not only that, fewer of us people have noticed this but there is no graphical way to create a native adhoc network on Windows 8 or even 8.1. This graphical option still existed when I was using Windows 8 DP. You have to do it the command line way now, a disadvantage for those of us less tech savvy:

    How to make Adhoc Network in Windows 8 - YouTube

    There has been a few questions asked about that on this forum:

    Ad hoc (computer to computer) network!!!!!!!!!!


    [Help] How to Create a Ad-Hoc Network (WIFI) in Windows 8?


    And once again you'd have to resort to third party methods such as Connectify, Wifi Hotspot Creator, etc and so far there has been claims that those don't exactly work the way the native Windows adhoc works. When some colleagues of mine, many of which used laptops, boarded an apartment with no Wifi-hotspot last year, they would create these adhoc networks and whoever had broadband Internet would share their connection via adhoc and they also used it heavily for multiplayer games. I do not know if any of the third party alternatives to the native adhoc networking provided this option to play multiplayer games in between the machines joined into the network. They all used Windows 7 except for 3 people who had XP desktops (with no wireless adapters) who can't join the adhoc anyway.

    I can't stand they way MS are stripping those native useful features and they better not do those kinds of things again on Windows 8.2 and beyond.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 26
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post





    Hi there
    @SIW2 -- your wishes have been answered -- W8 is DEAD and BURIED.

    Windows 8.1 is far better and W8 will STOP receiving updates once W8.1 releases to final --and it IS a FREE update.



    Cheers
    jimbo
    No, it's not. It'll be supported for another two years.
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  8. #18


    Well it doesn't make much sense to stay on Win8 when the upgrade is free and offers so much more...so yes Win8 should join Vista in the archives of anonymity...

    @SIW2 I'll join you for a few beers anytime ...maybe if we are nice, jimbo will buy each a Brewsky ..
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  9. #19


    Quote Originally Posted by tst View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post





    Hi there
    @SIW2 -- your wishes have been answered -- W8 is DEAD and BURIED.

    Windows 8.1 is far better and W8 will STOP receiving updates once W8.1 releases to final --and it IS a FREE update.



    Cheers
    jimbo
    No, it's not. It'll be supported for another two years.
    I have a feeling that M$ will be changing the policy on that for Window 8.
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  10. #20


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Vertex View Post
    I do not fully understand why new machines shipped with Windows 8 have UEFI.
    The answer is to take advantage of some new security functions. The manufacturers decide in the end but Win8 can work without UEFI only then you don't get that little extra that everyone advertise.

    And I don't understand why they should keep the old BIOS (first made in the 70's) on all our devices...
    I know that some don't like UEFI but others DO.

    A choice would be nice but UEFI is becoming the new standard so you'll have to get used to it if you buy new computers.

    There are ways to enable legacy mode so all older OSes are possible to be installed. It's just a question if you can get all the hardware drivers found and installed if the OS is not designed for the (too new) machine...

    Also UEFI is supported by Linuxes like Ubuntu 12.04.2 and higher and Vista and Win7.

    UEFI is made to take advantage of x64 architecture otherwise why do we buy machines with more than 4GB of ram anyway... At the moment the old BIOS still exists even as a part in the new UEFI called legacy mode.
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