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Microsoft to Fix Blurry Text Bug in Windows 8.1 RTM Rumo

  1. #71


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    W8.1, W7


    QUOTE=fafhrd
    But does this look blurry to anyone - it is a Microsoft font called Calibri
    But does this look blurry to anyone - it is a Microsoft font called Candara
    But does this look blurry to anyone - it is a Microsoft font called Segoe UI
    But does this look blurry to anyone - it is a Microsoft font called Arial
    But does this look blurry to anyone - it is a Microsoft font called Verdana
    /QUOTE

    ^^^ Using XP\W7 + FF25 & IE8\9 = no blurr, all are sharp.

    Will take a look later using 8\81 & IE10\11.

    Edit: W81 IE11, everything blurry. FF25 all sharp.
    Edit2: W8 IE10, everything blurry. FF25 all sharp.

    Anyway, no problem here, have been using this recommendation for a long time: "switch to another browser that works better".
    Last edited by 4wd; 09 Nov 2013 at 08:27.

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  2. #72


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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    There are other font renderers available other than the code found in the standard Windows gdi32.dll version. Because Far Eastern language characters are more varied and complex then the European alphabets, Japanese and Chinese developers have been trying to increase the clarity in some text applications for their character sets:
    https://code.google.com/p/gdipp/

    https://code.google.com/p/ezgdi/

    GDIPP is interesting in that you can set it to render individual selected apps (it's very variable if used to render everything with normal Windows font smoothing turned off). It does seem to improve IE 11 at the expense of other applications like Chrome.

    There's also MacType

    https://code.google.com/p/mactype/

    I guess that this emulates MAC font rasterization under Windows.
    Last edited by fafhrd; 16 Nov 2013 at 16:15.
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  3. #73


    The only problems I had with Ff seem to have been corrected, whether from Ff 25.0.1, or from my latest Catalyst update to 13.11 (b9.2), or from the latest Win8.1x64 updates this past Wednesday (always patch Tuesday is patch Wednesday for me for some reason...)

    1) Sidebar bookmarks are no longer corrupted with the browser's "hardware acceleration" feature turned on (which definitely is nice.)

    2) The pulsing dimming/brightening text I used to see from white text on a black background has ceased. I think this was caused by the screen-brightening/dimming feature of 8.1--which I had turned off because my monitor doesn't have the corresponding light-level monitoring hardware. Apparently, the feature is now working correctly and off is not on...
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  4. #74


    Quote Originally Posted by fafhrd View Post
    There's also MacType...

    https://code.google.com/p/mactype/

    I guess that this emulates MAC font rasterization under Windows.
    Trying this as we speak and the differences are so slight that I'm not sure there are any differences...but thanks for the link nevertheless! It's strange, but now I'm seeing the reverse of what I had been seeing before--now something's going on with black text on a white background. The fonts will sometimes just pulse every couple of minutes between blurry & sharp--exactly what used to happen for me with white text on dark backgrounds....when I last posted I had not noticed this yet. (Right now, for instance, I'm not seeing it here.) Go figure...
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  5. #75


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    Windows 8.0 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    M$ says they are listening to customers.
    In that case I should post an audio file: "Make the fix available for 8.8. I don't need 8.1. This one works pretty well if only I could read what's on my monitor."
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  6. #76


    Portsmouth Hants
    Posts : 772
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Pulsing blur. USA Martian power supplies are 60Hz, I'm told. Is your Monitor also running at a standard screen refresh rate of 60Hz? It could be a simple harmonic beat with stray EM fields. The power supply frequencies can be quite variable depending on demand. You'd only get a beat if the frequencies were very closely mismatched. Just a thought.

    Is there a phase adjustment to alter the horizontal rate? Can you try altering the monitor refresh rate to 70 or 85 Hz to see if the pulse went away?
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  7. #77


    Posts : 2,130
    Windows 8.0 x64


    The best I could do was gamma adjustment. That helped a lot. But it's a Toshiba Laptop. No contrast adjustment. I get by with FF Color Toggle AddOn.
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  8. #78


    Quote Originally Posted by fafhrd View Post
    Pulsing blur. USA Martian power supplies are 60Hz, I'm told. Is your Monitor also running at a standard screen refresh rate of 60Hz? It could be a simple harmonic beat with stray EM fields. The power supply frequencies can be quite variable depending on demand. You'd only get a beat if the frequencies were very closely mismatched. Just a thought.

    Is there a phase adjustment to alter the horizontal rate? Can you try altering the monitor refresh rate to 70 or 85 Hz to see if the pulse went away?
    Well, I use the dust-proof XV-51C variant power supplies these days--while approved by the GMC (Global Martian Consortium) they do project an oscillating EM field that serves as a block to the dust here, so you may be on to something!...

    It does sound strange but I don't want to over emphasize the event: it doesn't cause much in the way of real inconvenience. It's just something I've noticed (with my 60Hz monitor since I updated to 8.1 from 8.0). It's sporadic. And as I mentioned, it's flipped polarity, as it were, going from happening with white text on black bg, to happening with black text on a white bg. However, if the background is an off-white, like this site, for instance, it doesn't occur. It feels like an OS bug of some kind relating to 8.1's auto-dimming/brightening code, as though the feature isn't actually turned off all the time, and may be sensitive to detecting a type of high-contrast 2d graphical environment--who knows? Merely a guess at the moment. I really had thought it possibly a problem with my monitor, until the "flip," that is.
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  9. #79


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    I am still seeing the blurry text, since upgrading to 8.1. FF is my daily browser (sometimes IE), but both look awful! I can Ctrl+ to up the size and sometimes makes it readable, but not always (and a PITA!) and not for long.

    I tried updating vid drivers, says they're the latest already. Then I noticed my AMD Catalyst Control has disappeared from my tray. I tried reinstalling it, gives me a fail on one part. I went to AMDs site and downloaded again, only to find it tells me what I have it already correct/the same.

    Clear Type does nothing to fix (numerous times), and checking the box for Let me choose one scaling for displays...does nothing (it wasn't checked before, and don't know if 8.1 unchecked it, or it never was checked).

    This makes my daily laptop almost unusable with all the blur...WHY did this happen with a simple upgrade?

    I've been mostly using my 8YO desktop that still (luckily!) has 7 Pro on it. I have my gamer laptop to upgrade to 8.1, but NO WAY after this!

    I'm open to any other suggestions, or if I need to provide more info. Very sad.
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  10. #80


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    Windows 8.0 x64


    Try Start Screen search Settings. Type in Cali and you should see Calibrate Display Color. In there one of the adjustments should be Gamma. See this video

    Even though it's W7 it's the same gamma sliders I did on W8.

    It should help a bit.
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