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Windows 8 Grabs 5.42% of the OS Market

  1. #21


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    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    Yea, that's what always baffles me, the solution was so very very simple.... how is it possible that the multitude of high price geniuses at ms central missed it...???

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  2. #22


    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic98 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    "Grabs" is hardly IMO the correct expression -- might be desperately via brute force and lack of other possible choices grudgingly reaches 5.4% of the market. (For most people using Linux or Apple isn't an option -- and W7 has all but disappeared from normal retail channels).

    "Grabs" essentially implies that the OS is taking retail by storm which even the most biased person can see quite clearly it most definitely isn't.

    Windows 8.1 might fare a little better though provided they do something with that REDICULOUS start button. At least link that button to Power on / Off / restart /Logoff etc if nothing else.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I fail to see what any of this has to do with Apple or Linux. People who don't like 8 can easily stick with Windows 7. A lot of people like the OS they have evidence by the way XP is holding on, Windows 8 is a big change for a lot of people. Big change does not go over well in technology. That being said being at 5.4. "Grabs" might not be the best word, but 5.4 is not that far off from where they were headed at the growth rate 8 has been going at, even with that being slow. Maybe they're at 5.4 becuase more and more people are getting used to Windows 8 every day. Im sure many are liking what they see from 8.1 as well. This whole notion of "Windows 8 is not enough like 7, so I'm switching the Linux or Mac" makes very little sense to me. Despite its flaws, especially with the option of Desktop, Windows 8 is still more like the previous OS than Mac. I don't know anyone would expect that Windows 8 sales would just stop. Everyone does have the mentality that they're not even going to try to get used to Windows 8.
    you are accurate..
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  3. #23


    Posts : 120
    Windows 8.1 + StartIsBack + AeroGlass


    Just like most people with common sense predicted, Windows 8, AKA, the Hybrid, is failing at both mobile and desktop markets.

    If anyone at Microsoft is still capable of listening, can you please declare the experiment over, remove Metro from the desktop, and give us our Start Menu and Aero back?
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  4. #24


    Posts : 142
    Win 7 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by mcnulty View Post
    Just like most people with common sense predicted, Windows 8, AKA, the Hybrid, is failing at both mobile and desktop markets.

    If anyone at Microsoft is still capable of listening, can you please declare the experiment over, remove Metro from the desktop, and give us our Start Menu and Aero back?

    Better be careful bashing Microsoft. Next thing you know they'll change the latest "start" button into a Trojan virus that sends your personal info and data to the NSA each time you click on it.

    Wait.... Win 8 already does that without having to click on the fake start button.
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  5. #25


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic98 View Post
    The only other option when Vista came out was XP. 8 is having to compete with both XP and 7, two OS that people really like. Plus, it's a bigger change from 7 to 8 than from XP to Vista. Plus as bad as the coverage of Vista was, it's worse with 8 and even at times overblown. Of Course for a while 8 is going to sell slowly. But as they continue to make improvements and people continue to get used to it, the share will increase. Plus, people are going to have to get off XP eventually.
    You think 7 to 8 is a more massive overall change? I don't think so. XP to Vista was a gargantuan change, but with 7 to 8, the Desktop is relatively identical to 7. It's only the addition of the Start Screen and the Graphical Boot GUI.

    Look, Windows XP was the last OS which used a DOS-based install screen for a portion of the install. From Vista up, the install disks would mount a version of the new OS in order to install to the PC. That was a major change, and it has stayed the same for Vista, 7 and 8.

    But from 7 to 8, the directory structures are all pretty much the same, and it operates mostly like 7 does. I don't see the addition of the Start Screen and the Boot GUI as more of a change than XP to Vista. From XP to Vista, there were major changes to the directory structure, but between Vista and 7 and from 7 to 8, it really hasn't changed much.
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  6. #26


    Posts : 299
    win 7 home premium 64 bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    Yea, that's what always baffles me, the solution was so very very simple.... how is it possible that the multitude of high price geniuses at ms central missed it...???

    Remember a couple of years or so back when MS had a company wide meeting of the designers, programmers, engineers, and others and almost HALF of them walked out of the meeting? Those naysayers DID NOT MISS IT, they were overruled by Ballmer and other top execs.

    Now my question is for business school folks...if Paul Allen and Bill Gates would have been brought in as consultants and asked for their input, do you think either of these two guys would have missed it? I seriously doubt it. There is NO way MS would be in the same prostrate position that they are in now, if they would have had idea men along side a guy like Ballmer. In fact I believe that had Allen and Gates been around Ballmer would have been overruled and we would have seen a Windows 8 like most of us had envisioned. Most importantly the customer would have had a choice of which GUI they wanted to use as the default at every boot. I mean what a simple no brainer decision.

    MS NEEDS TO FIND A WAY TO GET PAUL ALLEN AND BILL GATES BACK AS CONSULTANTS, SOMEHOW, SOMEWAY....EVEN IF BALLMER HAS TO GET ON HIS KNEES AND KISS THEIR FEET!
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  7. #27


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    The START button and menu is an IRRELEVANCE once you have BOOT directly to desktop -- which is what Windows 8.1 can do.

    I'd suggest to all "Start button and Menu" wishers to just TRY windows 8.1 -- create a Programs custom toolbar and boot directly to desktop and now see if your original concerns about windows 8 are actually valid.

    Note also that there are essentially TWO start screens -- the standard one every desktop user hates and the Applications one -- and you can specify that the APPLICATIONS screen appears FIRST on the rare times you actually want the Start screen.

    Applications are installed to the APPLICATIONS screen not the START screen initially so it's easier to manage and of course you can pin them to the W8 equivalent of the start screen as well as desktop and taskbar.

    If you really MUST have a menu just for example use a custom toolbar - it pops up your programs just like a MENU and is much nicer (rather like the XP small menu) than the standard W7 menu which quite frankly looks a bit stupid when you are using 60 / 72 inch monitors !! and a lot do these days.

    The whole metro stuff is still a pile of dog poo for desktops but apart from some glitches with IE11 windows 8.1 is worth a try.

    For those who haven't use a custom toolbar - this is what it looks like even on W8.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails menu.png  
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  8. #28


    Somewhere in USA
    Posts : 233
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Are people still angry?


    Seriously, stick with something else if you can't handle change. It would make sense if there was no way to change it to how you want or there was no other option out there.

    You all have a choice. You have a choice for a third-party add, another os, etc.

    I don't go complaining on the Nissan forums how they don't make a 2 seat 370Z.

    8.1 further enhances my tablet experience and I love it. Is it perfect? No. Can I make it function only in desktop? Yes, but I wouldn't like it as much. It's not the end of the world and your opinion doesn't speak for me or others that get by fine with the way it is.

    Sorry, but your rants are falling on deaf ears and it's plain laughable.
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  9. #29


    Posts : 299
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post
    Are people still angry?



    Sorry, but your rants are falling on deaf ears and it's plain laughable.
    Yeah, that is why MS is introducing the UNscheduled, UNplanned release of Windows 8.1 this fall. LOL
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  10. #30


    Posts : 47
    Win 8 (?)


    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post
    ...

    You all have a choice. You have a choice for a third-party add, another os, etc. ...
    My choice... another OS.
    Bye bye Microsoft


    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    Yeah, that is why MS is introducing the UNscheduled, UNplanned release of Windows 8.1 this fall. LOL
    Naaaaa... that's because Microsoft loves all of us
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