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Steve Ballmer confesses Microsoft built too many tablets

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Don't know what the appeal is for the nexus devices. I've used many devices across 3 platforms (iOS, android, and RT/8). No BB, though. I still think RT feels much much much better than iOS and android. There's just no comparison.
    - High-density displays
    - Good performance
    - Plenty of apps
    - Reasonable price

    RT fails at each of those four points so you're right, there's no comparison. Makes one wonder why it hasn't sold particularly well, doesn't it?

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    Hi there
    If you need Windows - then use the proper WINDOWS OS.

    RT is going nowhere -- why in the world would you even as a developer learn a skill set that will be absolutely NO use to you in your future career prospects.

    The only way RT could have worked would be to have a Meta compiler so standard windows apps could run on the ARM (or other) architectures but they decided not to go that route -- probably because the processor in the tablet would have been too expensive to provide the processing requirements of a very fast meta language. However had they done this then STANDARD windows apps could be installed at will making the whole tablet a lot more useful.

    RT -- Fail .

    Cheers
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    Microsoft has got stuck in both the deals with the latest Win version and the Tab.. now how hard efforts are required to get out of the slow down the firm is facing is better known to it only ..
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    I think much of the mistake is from Microsoft, besides the other aspects where the RT could not compete with it competitors, they just built "too many" of it from the start. They should have built only a quarter or less of the number they had now, just to test if it would sell and just build more if the demands for the RT come in high, than leaving so many of these devices to grow old on the shelves.

    And another thing is that, Micro$oft just didn't have a "Steve Jobs" figure that would help make their products "sell". Instead they had the "other Steve" (Ballmer) whose performance as CEO disgusts a lot of people and will take a big part of the blame why this is happening to Microsoft right now.
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    Hi there
    maybe people should read THIS -- I'm sure many people would agree with the sentiment posed in this article.

    BBC News - Are there too many managers?

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcnulty View Post

    - High-density displays
    I've been saying since day one that such high density displays are just a fad. As a test, I've been showing people who has ipads with the so-called retina display my not-so high res display the hp envy x2. Sure, putting the ipad and my device side by side you can tell the difference. But take the ipad away and people always thought my device also had a retina display.

    It's just a fad that if you want to be a cool kid then you gotta have it.

    - Good performance -
    This is up for debate. No matter what google has done to android, it still feels clunky to me.

    - Plenty of apps
    Android has been out for how long? Windows 8/rt has been out for how long? I'm old enough to remember when people kept saying android will die because it didn't have as many apps as iOS.

    - Reasonable price
    Good point here. But for a 7 inch screen... no thanks.

    RT fails at each of those four points so you're right, there's no comparison. Makes one wonder why it hasn't sold particularly well, doesn't it?[/QUOTE]

    Have you actually used the two devices side by side? Something as simple as swiping left and right to change the screen makes the nexus device feels clunky and unfinished next to an rt device. And something as simple as browsing with the web browser should be telling enough. The lag in android in regard to web browsing is unacceptably annoying. When people first started noticing this lag a year ago in high end android devices, I held off my judgment. I kept waiting for them to fix it. It's been a year and web browsing still feel clunky and slow on every android device I've ever used.
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    [QUOTE=acr731;261836][QUOTE=jimbo45;261819]
    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post


    I would prefer he was forced to live under a bridge, but we all know that isn't going to happen. People like him always find a way to BS their neck out of the noose.
    I don't think they are clever in such ways, it is only that they are "connected" to , and KNOW THE RIGHT PEOPLE in high places that is why they walk away with a lage golden parachute and seem to get yet ANOTHER top executive job once the news dies down.


    I'd love to see laws rewritten that would allow former/present company heads that lead a company to gross financial ruin to be sued for criminal malfeasance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mcnulty View Post

    - High-density displays
    I've been saying since day one that such high density displays are just a fad. As a test, I've been showing people who has ipads with the so-called retina display my not-so high res display the hp envy x2. Sure, putting the ipad and my device side by side you can tell the difference. But take the ipad away and people always thought my device also had a retina display.

    It's just a fad that if you want to be a cool kid then you gotta have it.

    - Good performance -
    This is up for debate. No matter what google has done to android, it still feels clunky to me.

    - Plenty of apps
    Android has been out for how long? Windows 8/rt has been out for how long? I'm old enough to remember when people kept saying android will die because it didn't have as many apps as iOS.

    - Reasonable price
    Good point here. But for a 7 inch screen... no thanks.

    RT fails at each of those four points so you're right, there's no comparison. Makes one wonder why it hasn't sold particularly well, doesn't i

    Have you actually used the two devices side by side? Something as simple as swiping left and right to change the screen makes the nexus device feels clunky and unfinished next to an rt device. And something as simple as browsing with the web browser should be telling enough. The lag in android in regard to web browsing is unacceptably annoying. When people first started noticing this lag a year ago in high end android devices, I held off my judgment. I kept waiting for them to fix it. It's been a year and web browsing still feel clunky and slow on every android device I've ever used.

    Yeah, once again you've got a giant phone for an os.. without the phone. Why?

    I'd much rather have a full os at hand. Some day soon we'll have some compelling devices. A giant phone-less phone for $250 just doesn't make sense to me when I can wait a few months or spend a hundred or more for an Atom tablet that can do real stuff.
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    goodintentions: If you set out to simply dismiss every reason one can give to explain why people are buying Nexus devices, it's no wonder you fail to understand their success.

    You're not alone though, it's pretty obvious that Microsoft still doesn't grasp the concept of what a tablet should be either.
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    Hi there
    What about the ridiculous idea of having a 20 or even 24 MP sensor in a MOBILE PHONE camera !!! (Apple seems to want to do it).

    Even Apple can't change the Laws of Physics -- apart from Hideous "noise" problems by having so many pixels crammed together on a tiny sensor the actual Lens on the camera will be totally incapable of resolving that detail -- even a PRO 35 MM Lens (the professional rocket launcher size one's you see the pro shooters using at professional sports events) has a limited resolving power.

    For any Photographers on this Forum -- here's an interesting article taken from one of the BEST and most informative photography sites around.

    Do Sensors

    Enjoy !!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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