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Did we all just witness Windows start to die?

  1. #31


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wenda View Post
    I have just converted 3 of my windows 7 PCs to Linux Mint Cinnamon, and they will stay that way.
    Yes, I quite like Mint Cinnamon.

    I have Mint Mate as well, but haven't had the time to play with it much.
    Last week I installed Linux Mint 15 MATE (64 bit) in VMware Player (running in Linux Mint 14 MATE).

    It's lightning fast (it's the fastest modern OS I've played with).

    The Linux Mint 15 MATE (64 bit) VM:

    • Took ~6 minutes to install (I skipped the languages)
    • Took ~10 minutes to update everything
    • Booted up in ~15 - 20 seconds!
    • Used ~350 MB of RAM (measured by the VM's system monitor)

    I'm giving serious consideration to replacing Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) on my HDD with it.
    The only thing holding me back is, my friend promised to sell me his 512 GB SSD, so I might wait for that to happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    Problem IS fragmentation -- I tried SUSE LINUX and MINT Cinnamon -- I absolutely MUST have MS office and Photoshop for the foreseeable future so I tried installing VMWARE hoping to get a Windows virtual machine up and running for these applications -- no way can I use anything else other than Photoshop or Office and they don't work on WINE properly either.

    SUSE 12.3 (current release version) gave me some problem about "Kernel headers missing" -- so I tried to do what I found on Google - install the kernel source package and then try again -- now I was getting some sort of "Hard stop -compile / run time error" with some totally bizarre messages (at least to me they seemed to be). There's no way any average person could even BEGIN to sort this mess out (and I still haven't).

    On Cinnamon the situation was even worse - the application appeared to install but just did NOTHING AT ALL when trying to start it up.
    VMware Player runs correctly on my Linux Mint MATE 14 (64 bit).
    I went to VMware's site and downloaded the bundle and installed it with no problems.

    I don't know why it wouldn't work in your SUSE LINUX and MINT Cinnamon installs.
    Are you sure you downloaded the correct bundle?

    I used to see that message when I tried to install VMware Tools in my Fedora VM.
    It was a pain to get the necessary files (development headers?) and install them.
    Very nice.
    I prefer Mate over Cinnamon as well.

    Cinnamon has some fancy transparency that slows things down when you don't have appropriate drivers.

    All good old themes (Gnome 2) run in Mate: Crux, Aurora, Clearlooks...
    VMWare Player beats them all on x64 Mate.

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  2. #32


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    That's so damn true, When I was running Ubuntu I went in for some minor problem and was assaged by 3l33t ]-[/\X04s. Cos I was a newbie I didn't deserve to axe for their help.
    Haha, and you think that's bad? It's Ubuntu, one of the more newbie friendly Linux distros. I started using Linux back in the days when you still had to write out every freakin' sudo line to do an installation of the system. If anyone remembers this, some distros made you type in the specific make and model of your keyboard, mouse, etc. A question about the syntax of a command line will result in half a dozen "you're stupid go away" answers.

    You can still find this kind of attitude in some Linux distro forums, usually the more 1337 ones.

    Oh well, if those 1337s believe their attitude is what's best for the Linux community, then all the more power to them. I don't really care anymore as my time is used for more useful things than trying to figure out the next sudo command line.
    Actually, the only Linux people that have treated me like a person? have been the cYdia/Jailbreak people. Some of them bent over backward to help me out.
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  3. #33


    Windows will start to die, when desktop applications will start to die. And that's not taking place anytime soon. VDE and web based applications may accelerate this, but even then, it'll be awhile. For most people, it isn't about platform, it is about applications...

    My Vista was replaced by LM 15 and it ran just fine. The system was used for browsing the web, emails, and light office document creation, but OpenOffice ain't no MS Office and missed Visio. I was about to put back Vista, when W8.1 came out and gave it a whirl. After customization of the system, I like w8.1 and probably buy the RTM version when it is available. Especially, since 8.1 improved the performance of the relatively old laptop to the level that it pretty close to the first generation ultrabook performance. Yes, with the SSD...
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  4. #34


    Toronto
    Posts : 82
    Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise 64-Bit


    Hi everyone,

    Please folks do let High Tech Media wash your brains,,,, Windows 9 is in the works and we all will be getting lots of stories and new reports in a few weeks in regards how its looking and what it will have and stuff like Metro and UI it wont have.... I think by the end of 2014 Windows 9 will be ready to release and we all will be very happy...

    Yes it will have a start button and full working menu for starters and it will be very very fast...

    Don't let foolish Media try to scare or brain wash you, Windows for laptops and desktops will be around on this earth till Hell Freezes it Over!

    But I agree that Microsoft Corp, wont be the same Company that we all know in a few years, I am very sure Microsoft will be taken apart and sold section/department as time clicks forward, and we will also see sections/departments closed for good.

    Microsoft will sell, and partner in the future stay tuned this will be the next major change at Microsoft...

    PS: Windows 10 and onward is where this new transformation and partnerships will show up and in a full affect from Windows 10 and every other Windows future new OS updates will not have the name of Microsoft stamped on the DVD or Retail boxes, This will be a very Interesting time as they say around 2015...

    Regards,
    ExplorerTML
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  5. #35


    Posts : 86
    Windows 8.1 Pro & OS X Mavericks


    I believe its always a good idea to expose yourself to other operating systems other than Windows. I started doing that since the plague of Vista. Ubuntu was the first Linux distro that I was exposed to and I believed it was a great alternative. I've tried all of the releases up to 13.04 and I think its a great alternative overall. Of course I do admit it would be great if there were a bit more commercial software. Microsoft Office is essential for my work and its just not the same using another alternative office suite. Maybe in the future?

    I also tried OS X and I find it a great OS too. It does have support for Microsoft Office and other suites like iLife. It has a lot of commercial software. I'm not why people complain that OS X sucks. The only bad thing I see is the lack of games for it, but most people already have gaming consoles for that.

    You may be wondering if I have a Mac? Well no I have a PC laptop, but who said I needed a Mac to run OS X lol? I actually have Linux, OS X, and Windows installed on my laptop. I get the best of all 3 worlds.
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  6. #36


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    MS haven't done very well trying to transition consumers into their clouds - so far. I am not convinced 8.1 will do all that much better.

    It is part of the bigger picture of transitioning ownership and control away from the individual into the hands of the corporations.

    I don't know if our kids/grandkids will understand what ownership is - they might spend their entire lives in the control of other entities.

    There is another possible scenario. Perhaps people will always understand the importance of ownership. Perhaps they will continue to demand it and resort to renting in certain circumstances.

    Kindle fired: 75% want printed books, not ebooks | WashingtonExaminer.com


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  7. #37


    USA, Idaho
    Posts : 1,062
    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    Quote Originally Posted by Explorertml View Post
    Hi everyone,

    Please folks do let High Tech Media wash your brains,,,, Windows 9 is in the works and we all will be getting lots of stories and new reports in a few weeks in regards how its looking and what it will have and stuff like Metro and UI it wont have.... I think by the end of 2014 Windows 9 will be ready to release and we all will be very happy...

    Yes it will have a start button and full working menu for starters and it will be very very fast...

    Don't let foolish Media try to scare or brain wash you, Windows for laptops and desktops will be around on this earth till Hell Freezes it Over!

    But I agree that Microsoft Corp, wont be the same Company that we all know in a few years, I am very sure Microsoft will be taken apart and sold section/department as time clicks forward, and we will also see sections/departments closed for good.

    Microsoft will sell, and partner in the future stay tuned this will be the next major change at Microsoft...

    PS: Windows 10 and onward is where this new transformation and partnerships will show up and in a full affect from Windows 10 and every other Windows future new OS updates will not have the name of Microsoft stamped on the DVD or Retail boxes, This will be a very Interesting time as they say around 2015...

    Regards,
    ExplorerTML
    Can I use your time machine. . .
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  8. #38


    In response to that article, I love my kindle and I like buying my music from Amazon mp3. Having my media at home as well as stored in the cloud is great.

    My sister just had a house fire, lost just about everything. But as soon as she bought a replacement kindle, she had every single book back. No lists, no insurance, no hassles, just everything back all quick and easy.

    It's not all bad.

    I only buy physical books now when the price is far cheaper than the ebook. Nothing to store, doesn't take space.
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  9. #39


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    No, it isn't all bad. It has it's place.

    But it might not necessarily take over. Some people still understand the true value and concept of ownership. Long may it continue.
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  10. #40


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Very nice.
    I prefer Mate over Cinnamon as well.

    Cinnamon has some fancy transparency that slows things down when you don't have appropriate drivers.

    All good old themes (Gnome 2) run in Mate: Crux, Aurora, Clearlooks...
    VMWare Player beats them all on x64 Mate.
    I swapped my customised Ubuntu theme into Linux Mint MATE 14 and it worked without any problems.
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