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    Who here can name one corporation that is not about monetization? Even in a non-for-profit corp the top people are raking in mucho $bucks$ with salaries.

    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    The point of monetization is valid. But MS is not alone.
    Who here can turn on any mobile device of any company, open an app, and not see some form of advertising? How about most web pages? It's called monetization. Some system or someone has to pay for the "luxury" to use apps and/or a website. Advertising is that means. Perhaps MS took it to far to place it in a desktop PC OS, but monetization is not the sole goal. A part of the goal is to run an OS across all devices to become familiar to the masses. Who here can blame MS in there attempt to drum up some business? Anyone?

    Don't like it? Turn it all off. It's that simple. The choice is still possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wenda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I am wondering if at some point, a pc will become a dumb terminal, with the OS being a subscription service that one logs into in the cloud.
    LOL. Glad you have caught on.
    That is the day mine will be going straight into the nearest rubbish skip.
    To me, that's not computing, or anything remotely close to it.
    Wenda
    Are dumb terminals MS's aim? I don't know, but let's not jump to conclusions yet. For now the OS is native. One is able to use a local account. One has the option to turn off any service that one finds intrusive.

    Will the "common masses" know that they can be turned off? No, but perhaps they'll hire you to do so. For the most part, I don't really think they give a hoot.

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    To make a choice requires knowledge. Those without knowledge can be more easily manipulated. There are vast commercial gains to be made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    To make a choice requires knowledge. Those without knowledge can be more easily manipulated. There are vast commercial gains to be made.
    Couldn't agree more.. IMHO the dumb terminal ->mainframe has now become browser->cloud - the only difference being the technology used, the premise is the same..thing is it's now been extended into home use.. it makes business sense tho'.. with the potential exposure, commercialization is the obvious spin-off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    To make a choice requires knowledge. Those without knowledge can be more easily manipulated. There are vast commercial gains to be made.
    You mean like this fellow did?

    P. T. Barnum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Sounds like you're on a crusade to save the masses. It's too late. They're all going to Walmart already, so.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    To make a choice requires knowledge. Those without knowledge can be more easily manipulated. There are vast commercial gains to be made.
    Couldn't agree more.. IMHO the dumb terminal ->mainframe has now become browser->cloud - the only difference being the technology used, the premise is the same..thing is it's now been extended into home use.. it makes business sense tho'.. with the potential exposure, commercialization is the obvious spin-off.

    Excellent observations....

    and the businesses ARE manipulating via the educational systems as well.

    To some degree they WANT a consumer that is a bit dull. They can be easily led by the nose.
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    It's a conundrum ...


    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    To some degree they WANT a consumer that is a bit dull. They can be easily led by the nose.
    It's a conundrum for business.

    They want smart workers and stupid consumers.
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    The thing that staggers me is the fanboi concept that the negative posts on this forum are actually helping to cause the lack of acceptance of W8.

    They can't seem to grasp the simple truth that it's been rejected en masse by everyday consumers.

    W8 is an archetypal model of a self-destruct system! It doesn't need any help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    The thing that staggers me is the fanboi concept that the negative posts on this forum are actually helping to cause the lack of acceptance of W8.

    They can't seem to grasp the simple truth that it's been rejected en masse by everyday consumers.

    W8 is an archetypal model of a self-destruct system! It doesn't need any help!

    One thing I could say to Microsoft and perhaps to many other companies out there, "listen to your critics, more than your fans."

    Fans will be fans, many would remain loyal even how bad it gets till the bitter end, but critics will always try to find a flaw in you which you should better acknowledge and fix.
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    I'll just repeat something I've already said, likely on both 7 and 8 forums.

    I don't like liver. You telling me how much you like liver isn't going to make me suddenly like liver. Me telling you I don't like liver isn't going to suddenly make you not like liver.

    Substitute the word liver with Metro and I think you'll get the idea.
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    Hi there
    If you DON'T like it don't buy or use it -- there's plenty of other alternatives available.

    As for making money -- well a Not for Profit co-operative is fine in some instances but until things like 3-D printing render all sorts of working essentially redundant and allows you to create and have whatever you want at the press of a button (rather like Star ship Enterprise's Replicator device) you are going to need businesses to make money to service your medical care and pension when you retire.

    How 3D Printing is Changing Everything - CEA

    This will eventually happen but probably not in my lifetime or even in the next 100 years -- although who knows. Until that day we are going to have to use money so we need some organisations who actually MAKE it.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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