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Microsoft Should Keep Both Windows 7 and Windows 8

  1. #41


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazure View Post
    I've never had an install of Windows 7 on a machine go without having basic ethernet (or even wifi) functionality right at the desktop. I even get working audio. On some systems, even picked up and installed a working graphics driver that made Aero work in the monitor's native resolution. Basically, in 15-20 minutes, from boot of the USB installer for win7 to a working desktop, I have everything I need to get the system into tip top shape.
    Depends on the motherboard. My experience is about hardware built in 2012, not when 7 was released in 2009.
    I'm not complaining. All those tasks were a piece of cake to me. As for DirectX, well..., I use Media Player Classic which requires a download from MS of those runtime things. About Adobe, flash is everywhere, at this time. About Defender, the action center would give a notice if nothing was installed. Silverlight used to be (and still is) required by Netflix. I don't have TV at home. Dotnet is necessary for Windows Live Mail to function.

    My new Asrock board needed drivers to get online in 7 but not in 8.

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  2. #42


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    For the pedantic, I have just looked it up:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_noun

    A good example of such a metonymic shift in the singular-to-plural direction (which, generally speaking, only occurs in British English) is the following sentence: "The team have finished the project." In that sentence, the underlying thought is of the individual members of the team working together to finish the project. Their accomplishment is collective, and the emphasis is not on their individual identities, yet they are at the same time still discrete individuals; the word choice "team have" manages to convey both their collective and discrete identities simultaneously.
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  3. #43


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    Server 2012 / 8.0


    I apologize. I am not familiar with British English.
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  4. #44


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    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by Lazure View Post
    Yeah, try again to tell me that windows 7 doesn't have a good OOBE experience..
    I never said 7 had a bad OOBE. I was responding to the quote that 7 had a "PERFECT" OOBE.
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  5. #45


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    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit, Ubuntu 13.04 64-Bit


    I see. Never used Windows Live Mail, as I've gotten away from POP3 a long time ago. Even then, I always installed Office. MPC-HC does require directx stuff, but it doesn't seem many people use that one over VLC. I use MPC-HC, though. Because many games require the runtimes, though, I always end up with it pretty much by default. I always thought the Windows Live suite installer came with the .NET and whatever requirements? I remember Silverlight being required if you were installing certain components even and it being installed as well automatically.

    Anyhow, I wasn't aware ethernet protocols changed so much in the past few years that Windows 7's generic whatnots couldn't handle the onboard nics anymore.
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  6. #46


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    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Installing these systems is easy for those of us that know what we are doing. Complete the setup, then perform tasks 1 thru whatever to get it the way one likes it.

    The Windows Live install process requests a .NET download first. I have no idea what the engineers at Asrock have done to make it require a driver for 7. Linux connects online with no problem with this board. Yeah, Silverlight would be installed automatically if one hits Netflix without it. I just take 20 seconds and install it first. Windows 8 is messy. I have spent countless hours configuring the start screen and have now given up on it. I do not use the start screen except for access to the desktop or apps area. My apps area is highly edited. My preference is also to use a floating start menu on the desktop that reads hidden files and folders and that can be turned on and off like an application.

    I don't see Microsoft leaving WinRT to mobile devices only. It has other benefits that are hard to explain because everyone is obsessed with touch on the desktop problem.

    The point of monetization is valid. But MS is not alone. I am wondering if at some point, a pc will become a dumb terminal, with the OS being a subscription service that one logs into in the cloud.

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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    I am wondering if at some point, a pc will become a dumb terminal, with the OS being a subscription service that one logs into in the cloud.
    LOL. Glad you have caught on.
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  8. #48


    Adelaide
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    Romanes Eunt Domus?


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Oh the grammar police have arrived, its a for you SIW2.
    Reminds me of this:



    Transcript:
    Brian's Latin Lesson (from Monty Python's Life of Brian)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lazure View Post
    The fact people even go as far as installing it on CORE i7 computers with more than 4GB of RAM despite the fact it can't use those things properly blows my mind!
    Create a RAM disc using the "excess" RAM and put the Page File and Temp folders on it.

    XP runs nicely using that arrangement.
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  9. #49


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    Windows 7


    Its true.In desktop both the operating system is to be installed the facility is available..First you install the lower version and then install the higher version.Then only support the windows7 and windows8.
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  10. #50


    South Coast NSW, Australia
    Posts : 615
    Windows 8.1 'Ultimate' RTM 64 bit (Pro/WMC).


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I am wondering if at some point, a pc will become a dumb terminal, with the OS being a subscription service that one logs into in the cloud.
    LOL. Glad you have caught on.
    That is the day mine will be going straight into the nearest rubbish skip.

    To me, that's not computing, or anything remotely close to it.


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