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Microsoft remains shackled to strategy after $900M loss

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    Nobody cares, they won't know. They will only see Ubuntu.

    Mark is not going to find it easy. He doesn't have $2bn to spend on promotion, he can't subsidise anybody. He can't buy acres of space at best buy. It is not a level playing field.

    It is not impossible - Mozilla managed to FF os going.

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    Andriod is Linux, iPhone is unix base and they are eating M$ lunch in mobile and more to come. Windows 8 phone is a distant third.
    M$ is betting the farm on trying to beat Linux right now and they are losing.
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    Yes, that is true.

    What is also interesting is the possibility of another full os size in the market.

    It is made by Canonical and called Ubuntu. That is all the public will know.

    It is possible Ricky Stallman will have some criticisms of it. He has far, far greater criticisms of Windows and Apple. Doesn't seem to stop many people buying them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    But, Linux community and Dev's don't have to support 25 flavors or even 2, get behind one good one.
    The community and devs, and the consumer will ultimately decide that. That is how the free market is supposed to work.
    But they WON'T. That's the problem. If that was likely, it would have happened by now. But instead, every so often, a new Linux distro rises above the others, only to be beaten down by the hordes for it's audacity to speak for them. This is a system cultural flaw of Linux, and something that cannot and will not change without some major shift in the political and licensing winds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Andriod is Linux, iPhone is unix base and they are eating M$ lunch in mobile and more to come. Windows 8 phone is a distant third.
    M$ is betting the farm on trying to beat Linux right now and they are losing.
    Actually, Android is *NOT* Linux. Android is Java. It just so happens to typically ship on a Linux kernel. It could run on anything and still be Android.
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    Linus Torvalds
    And as Android has shown, Linux really can be very much a consumer product.
    That is good enough for me.
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  7. #27


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Andriod is Linux, iPhone is unix base and they are eating M$ lunch in mobile and more to come. Windows 8 phone is a distant third.
    M$ is betting the farm on trying to beat Linux right now and they are losing.
    Actually, Android is *NOT* Linux. Android is Java. It just so happens to typically ship on a Linux kernel. It could run on anything and still be Android.
    Android is a Linux-based operating system[9] designed primarily for touchscreen mobile devices such as smartphones and tablet computers. Initially developed by Android, Inc., which Google backed financially and later bought in 2005,[10]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29
    Apps are written in Java not the OS.
    Android has a large community of developers writing applications ("apps") that extend the functionality of devices, written primarily in a customized version of the Java programming language.[13]
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    It's a fork.
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    Android is not, technically, an OS. I don't care what the Wikipedia entry says. It's a framework. a set of libraries, and an environment. It can run on any Kernel it's ported to.

    If you go to Google's android site, notice they don't even call it an OS. They call it a "Platform".

    If you check out this image:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...chitecture.svg

    The parts that are Blue, Yellow, and Green are all OS agnostic and comprise what is basically the entire Android OS. The kernel, the part in red, can be easily replaced with any other kernel that provides the same services.

    The Wikipedia article is too simplistic. Linux has barely *anything* to do with Android, other than providing the basic kernel and device driver functions. Even multi-tasking is handled in the Dalvik virtual machine. Yes, Android does ship on Linux today, but it doesn't have to.

    For instance, here's someone that has gotten Android running on FreeBSD

    Android on FreeBSD | FreeBSD News
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    Whatever you post, it isn't going to make MS the master of all.

    You can disagree with Linus Torvalds till you go blue in the face - whatever turns you on.
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