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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Never say never. Looks like China Unicom is interested in being a launch partner for ubuntu phone next year. If that happens, it could be interesting.
    Who? Suppose it will be as interesting as Psion or Maemo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
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    The only things holding Linux back from full consumer use and support is the Linux community itself and developers.
    Agreed - The Linux community is too diverse to be effective IMHO
    That diversity can make Linux more appealing because no one has complete control over the OS as M$ does.
    And this is a very bad thing, because no one really controls linux, its quality is like students homework... Steam for linux doesnt mean almost anything also, because there still is almost no games, and the ones which are, quality and performance is not even close to their windows versions, baby
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    China Unicom have 300m subscribers. Not exactly small fry.

    For those of who who think the world begins and ends at the US borders, Verizon are talking to Ubuntu now.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Never say never. Looks like China Unicom is interested in being a launch partner for ubuntu phone next year. If that happens, it could be interesting.
    Who? Suppose it will be as interesting as Psion or Maemo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    China Unicom have 300m subscribers. Not exactly small fry.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Never say never. Looks like China Unicom is interested in being a launch partner for ubuntu phone next year. If that happens, it could be interesting.
    Who? Suppose it will be as interesting as Psion or Maemo.

    Ubuntu was interesting for a minute. Unfortunately, their progress and development is even further behind MS at this point to even care. I'm betting MS gets the common app store done before Ubuntu sells 1 phone.
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    Hard to tell how it will go. Ubuntu offer a full os on a phone - a long way ahead of MS.. It is also open source. Much depends on whether the carriers think it will appeal to the public. They are showing plenty of interest right now. It is not planned to be released till next year anyhow. No sense in rushing something out before it is ready. I have no idea if the public want all that functionality. They seem to only want android/ios capability. We won't know until/unless they get the chance to buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    China Unicom have 300m subscribers. Not exactly small fry.

    For those of who who think the world begins and ends at the US borders, Verizon are talking to Ubuntu now.
    I was being sarcastic.

    Verizon at one point or another has "talked to" everyone. There have been a dozen different Linux based phone OS's in the past.. It's unlikely this one will gain any more traction than the last. Even so, Verizon has been selling Windows phones for a decade.. so what?
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    There is a possibilty of Ubuntu emerging into the market place. No idea how it will go . We will see. It is in a different league from previous Linux efforts. It is a different market. I wouldn't write it off just yet, there is a lot more going for it than earlier attempts.

    I don't know if it will happen, but it could. The conditions are more favourable than ever.

    It would be good if Ubuntu could gain a decent share. The more players, the better for competition and for consumers.

    FF os is interesting. Not a full size os, but there is a huge potential market for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    More appealing to whom? The paranoid and schizophrenic? Commercial software developers want a strong entity to stand behind the OS, and say this is what it is. They don't want to have 25 versions to support from 25 different entities, each with various configurations and environments.

    On top of that, nobody wants to base their companies future on an OS in which half of it's user base is actively trying to destroy the other half. And by that, I am referring to the Open source versus Free Software camps. Every so often RMS cries wolf about some new critical threat to the freedom of the universe and sends out his legions of followers to demand everyone stop using whatever it is that has finally started gain some successful traction in business, and risks open source actually making some inroads.

    Linux will never take over the market because it can never take over the LINUX market...
    Quote Originally Posted by startas View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post

    Agreed - The Linux community is too diverse to be effective IMHO
    That diversity can make Linux more appealing because no one has complete control over the OS as M$ does.
    And this is a very bad thing, because no one really controls linux, its quality is like students homework... Steam for linux doesnt mean almost anything also, because there still is almost no games, and the ones which are, quality and performance is not even close to their windows versions, baby


    Thank you, you both made my point very clear.

    But, Linux community and Dev's don't have to support 25 flavors or even 2, get behind one good one.
    The community and devs, and the consumer will ultimately decide that. That is how the free market is supposed to work.

    Yes Yes, don't cry me rivers of MS did this and that, so did Apple, so has Google.

    These are the supposed 3 evil companies and MS is the most Evil, even though, Apple is far more locked done and anti competitive than MS.

    Besides,, people b1tch and moan about how they can't do whatever on Windows and getting dismayed by all the things MS are doing now. This is Linux community time to jump and act, but they will remain isolated cause they have no head.
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    Doesn't matter. If the Ubuntu thing happens, other distros etc are not relevant. The public will not be aware of them. Only Ubuntu will be on offer to them.

    FF os got off the ground. The carriers don't seem to think it will confuse the public. They are delighted to offer a platform that is different.

    It is clear what the market for FF is. It is unknown what the market for Ubuntu will be - nobody yet knows if the public want a full scale os on a phone. We don't yet know how Mark Shuttleworth's idea of one os for all devices will play out. He is sensble enough to make the UI similar, but not identical across all devices. Maybe the public will love it - maybe not.

    It is all about the marketing.
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    Linux is Medusa, all the little snakes biting at each other thinking they can do it better rather than synching their resources into one system and sticking with it.

    This confuses the consumer and creates chaos that they are going to have a hard time recovering from till they get their act together.

    They have a golden opportunity here and they (Linux community) will squander it.
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