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  1. #31


    Hafnarfjörđur IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    My Mother in law has an old Android and a new one
    These things are garbage.
    They sell a lot. Might be because they are products people want.
    Hi there
    You could apply that same argument to illegal substances -- just because stuff sells doesn't make it a decent product -- especially if the competition is either non existent or "hobbled".

    I asked a question elsewhere - what possible use is Touch on a laptop - (not a convertible) - especially if it was being used as a normal laptop with the screen in a VERTICAL position. Everybody who replied said there was NO use and it was just a "feature" to make the laptop more expensive.

    As W8 is geared to touch devices it's quite obvious that it isn't suitable for a lot of "classical computing" devices and as soon as something else appears whether it's a new (SUITABLE) version of Linux or Windows then the demise of the current version of W8 is assured.

    Cheers
    jimbo

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  2. #32


    South Coast NSW, Australia
    Posts : 615
    Windows 8.1 'Ultimate' RTM 64 bit (Pro/WMC).


    Hey there, Jimbo...

    Today, I had the opportunity to compare and have a brief play with the 'dreaded' Surface tablets. Both versions, RT and Pro, and both set up in 'laptop mode'.

    They're both nice enough machines, but at 600 and 1000 nicker respectively, definitely too pricey for what they are and what they can do. I didn't particularly like either touch screen, but they worked well enough in Metro, which, on these devices, is not the fail it is on a desktop. And I didn't like either keyboard much, they are simply too lacking in functionality for either machine to be a laptop/desktop substitute without a decent keyboard plugged-in. The Pro does have the better k'board of the two, though.

    Size-wise I wouldn't have an issue with either one, and the weight isn't excessive, although I wouldn't like to lie in bed and use either one as an e-book reader.

    I must stress that I did not have an opportunity to start running programs and apps, nor did I explore (sorry) the OS too much (I sort of know what 8 looks and works like, having used it since the CP). The machines were on display in my local Hardly Normal store, and, of course, the salesman was busy elsewhere.

    My final impression: Neither are poor machines, the RT could be an iPad-killer if only it had the apps as it's far and away the superior machine. And the Pro is basically a nice little entry-level PC with the added ability to be a tablet as well. Both are far superior to my 7" Android ICS tablet, by a long way. In every way.

    Without the apps,though, the Android is probably a better choice for those who only need/want a tablet. The Pro is certainly a viable proposition without the apps as it does the x86 dance as well. But it does need a decent keyboard. I did not test the onscreen keyboard, I loathe them and have no reason to think those on the Surface would be any different.

    But, and here's the thing... I can't see either of them coming near to meeting my primary computing needs in the short to medium term at least, so I doubt either of them will be replacing this i7 quad-core laptop. Not until their specs can at least equal it (see my system specs below). But I'd happily use either one as an adjunct to my primary powerful desktop/laptop.

    Anyway, sorry if I bored you, but thought you may be interested, as I'm someone who really couldn't have cared less about the Surface one way or the other previously, but I did at least want to try them before bagging them. And I came away with a different, favourable impression so I guess it's fairly unbiased. Yes, I'd buy, but at half the price, and not as my primary computer.

    Cheers!


    Wenda.
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  3. #33


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    My Mother in law has an old Android and a new one
    These things are garbage.
    They sell a lot. Might be because they are products people want.
    Hi there
    You could apply that same argument to illegal substances -- just because stuff sells doesn't make it a decent product -- especially if the competition is either non existent or "hobbled".

    I asked a question elsewhere - what possible use is Touch on a laptop - (not a convertible) - especially if it was being used as a normal laptop with the screen in a VERTICAL position. Everybody who replied said there was NO use and it was just a "feature" to make the laptop more expensive.

    As W8 is geared to touch devices it's quite obvious that it isn't suitable for a lot of "classical computing" devices and as soon as something else appears whether it's a new (SUITABLE) version of Linux or Windows then the demise of the current version of W8 is assured.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    All enterpises are geared to "sell a lot" that is the yardstick of success... be it a good or bad product in the eyes of some - it would still be considered a success if it out-sells the competition

    Agree, Win8=touch.. what use that has in a production environment, I have yet to see... btw what's the deal with metro in Server 2012 (GUI)? I'm not a sysadmin so just posing the ?
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  4. #34


    Posts : 835
    Win 8.1 Pro


    Wenda

    Tablets in general are not meant to be a primary PC
    That is what a Desktop or good laptop is for.

    Tablets are for Mobility of certain tasks, but, with a Win8 Pro tablet, they are far and away superior to anything out there right now.

    Powerful, flexible and very usable in the field or on the go. Far more than a Laptop, and smokes every ipad and android on the market.

    I am glad you came away with a favorable impression, but if you had the choice,, would you spend the same amount of money to get an iPad or a Win8 Pro Tablet?

    That is the question that people need to ask themselves, and they need to realize the power behind Surface Pro.
    Surface Pro is not a Toy, it really is a productive machine. But, and I stress,,, not a desktop/laptop replacement, but a powerful mobile tool.

    Let's put it this way, people are still trying to use Aircards as their primary internet, and then complain when it runs like garbage.
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