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  1. #11


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    "So I hope that Microsoft does combine its smartphone and tablet OSes, and lets Windows be Windows -- an operating system for traditional computers that can run powerful applications on top of powerful hardware. Touch can be part of the equation. But it shouldn't be the whole equation, as it is now."

    Please, could someone travel to Redmond and let, Ballmer & Co., read that?
    If Microsoft will stay on this way I'm really thinking about moving to another OS.


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  2. #12


    Hafnarfjörđur IS
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    Hi there everyone

    How about a LITTLE bit of realism into this whole Metro and UI nonsense.

    Now I want ANYONE here who has more than say 40 APPS on their mobile phone (doesn't matter if it's Android, Iphone or Windows) to tell me if endless scrolling via the standard smartphone interfaces is easy to use or even a pleasant experience.

    For a FEW apps it's fine -- but I throw this out to people who have at least 40 or more apps on their phones.

    A PC will often have more than 40 applications too.

    'Nuff said I think on this whole Metro piece of B/S.

    "I rest my case M'Lud". Next Case please.!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  3. #13


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    Jimbo,

    You really don't seem to know how people use their phone's. First, they put their most common apps "on the desktop". Second, most OS's support some form of grouping or folder structure, for instance iOS has this:

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    There are also other ways to launch apps, such as voice command, and search. I have over 300 apps on my Galaxy S3, and I have 700 on my iPad.
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    A report by UnwiredView.com claims that Microsoft’s recently announced reorganization represented one step forward towards a unique operating system that could be installed on both mobile phones and tablets released next year.
    Some people think they're journalists, when they're not. "A report"? It's speculation. That's all any of this is.

    The fact is, yes.. The reorg is good news for combining the OS's, and that includes PC's. Microsoft's goal is to not have a "Phone OS" or a "Tablet OS", but to have one OS that works on all devices and platforms.

    They're not going to abandon WinRT.. whether or not the Metro UI stays is less certain. They could redesign it, or simply enhance it. My money is on a slow evolution to include a windowed UI based on Metro (which is just WPF under the covers).
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  5. #15


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    I'd like to know what this "Tablet OS" that is mentioned actually refers to? Windows RT maybe? Windows 8? Or both?
    I'd love to see it where clicking one tile would open another window with more tiles in it. Like a sub menu instead of everything being paint balled onto the one big endless side scrolled screen.
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  6. #16


    Hafnarfjörđur IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Jimbo,

    You really don't seem to know how people use their phone's. First, they put their most common apps "on the desktop". Second, most OS's support some form of grouping or folder structure, for instance iOS has this:

    Click image for larger version

    There are also other ways to launch apps, such as voice command, and search. I have over 300 apps on my Galaxy S3, and I have 700 on my iPad.
    Hi there
    the more I attempt this the more it goes even more Pear shaped than I even envisaged at the start of the process -- and who wants "Voice activated" systems in public places -- If I'm in the UK (the world's WORST offender) or to a lesser extent in France and I hear someone yelling into their phone "I'm on the train" (UK) or "Je suis sur le train" (France) I'll probably go totally beserk, do something that the users of these wretched devices might regret and end up in Jail for my efforts in trying to create a PEACEFUL travelling space. !! As for people trying to launch an app via a voice activated command -- Bring back the old phone jammers.

    I'm not anti modern technology -- but why do new devices always lead to a TOTAL lack of respect to other people around the phone user who might want a bit of peace and quiet.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7. #17


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    the more I attempt this the more it goes even more Pear shaped than I even envisaged at the start of the process -- and who wants "Voice activated" systems in public places
    Jimbo,

    You're back in your black and white argument mode. The point is that there are *MULTIPLE* ways of doing the same thing.. precisely because some ways work great in some situations, but not in others. If you're in a noisy place, or somewhere you want to be quiet, you use the text based search, or browse.. if you have the ability to use voice, then it's easy.. the choices are up to you.

    The point here is that you keep trying to come up with these black and white arguments about why things suck, and they always fail because you are always arguing about one thing... Yes, if that was the ONLY way to do it, it would suck. But that's not the case.
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  8. #18


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    LOL Jimbo.

    I hear someone yelling into their phone "I'm on the train" (UK) or "Je suis sur le train" (France) I'll probably go totally beserk
    Thank god phones don't work on the tube.
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    LOL Jimbo.

    I hear someone yelling into their phone "I'm on the train" (UK) or "Je suis sur le train" (France) I'll probably go totally beserk
    Thank god phones don't work on the tube.
    Hi there -- it's good some people shy away from some projects -- I doubt whether it's too difficult - just that the profitability isn't there.

    London tube phone signal plans shelved = too difficult | Mobile Industry Review

    However they still work on the Paris Metro - but the French don't seem to SCREAM into these devices like every Brit does with a voice that wonders if they are doing training to become a DRILL master in the Army.

    @Mystere -- YOU might be respectful of not using voice activated commands in a quiet place but most mobile phone users I see out there in public have TOTALLY no regard for anybody else whatsoever - in fact they are usually so oblivious of their surroundings they probably don'e even realize they are on this planet AT ALL.

    I reckon this woman should have been PRAISED by her boss not condemned when she refused to serve a customer at a supermarket checkout who was WHILE BEING SERVED spending time on a mobile phone.

    Sainsbury's checkout girl refuses to serve Jo Clarke while she uses her mobile

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  10. #20


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    So is Microsoft following Apple's and Google's approach to phones and tablets? Took them long enough. iOS began on a phone, then later it was easily adapted to a tablet. Android began on a phone, then it went onto tablets. For developers, it makes their lives easier since its the same OS and you can code for an app that both runs on a phone and tablet. Then you'll see your app store grow throughout the years.

    I'm not sure what Microsoft was thinking but I believe their original idea was to create Windows 8, and expand it to tablets and later to phones. In other words, they wanted to run a bloated OS on a tablet and on a phone. I guess they like working backwards.

    If you look at the Surface RT 32GB, it already consumes 16GB for Windows. So much for optimizing their own tablet.
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